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Old 02-02-2007, 03:17 PM
Vinny80 Vinny80 is offline
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Default AK line check vs donk

Villain was new to the table and I had no previous stats on him, but it was clear he was playing too loose and was just bad. (he ran 46/11/1.9 after 160 hands but at the time I had just my read) We had no history yet... How's my line and what's the minraise about on that flop???

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $944.75
Hero: $819.25
CO: $249.75
Button: $710.75
SB: $190.50
BB: $665.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($62, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $55</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $110</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($282, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $120</font>, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($522, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: $522
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Old 02-02-2007, 03:40 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: AK line check vs donk

i'd crai the turn. there are a million bad cards for you, but there are a lot of hands that a bad player will stack off with here.
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: AK line check vs donk

Is callinga raise and a bet aginst such a Calling Station right?
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:52 PM
wdead wdead is offline
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Default Re: AK line check vs donk

I hate a c/r here vs a passive donk since he will just stack you or fold. Just c/c turn and see what happens on the river. usually this flop minraise is KJ or K10 or whatever and they will check behind river (although K10 got there)
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: AK line check vs donk

i would almost always fold the turn if i didn't fold the flop vs. a guy this passive, but i think the flop call is probably fine.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:00 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: AK line check vs donk

I like the way you played this OP. crai on the turn is pretty bad in my opinion, espcially given stack depth. You're only getting called by hands that or crushing you or hands that have a million outs.
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:09 PM
Vinny80 Vinny80 is offline
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Default Re: AK line check vs donk

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I like the way you played this OP. crai on the turn is pretty bad in my opinion, espcially given stack depth. You're only getting called by hands that or crushing you or hands that have a million outs.

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That's what I was thinking too, it's pretty hard to figure out where I am in this hand. On only minraises me and then fire a weak bet on the turn...
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:21 PM
higHstaKesOwneR higHstaKesOwneR is offline
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Default Re: AK line check vs donk

to which betsize do you call or fold the river here?
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:26 PM
GLmaestro GLmaestro is offline
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i would almost always fold the turn if i didn't fold the flop vs. a guy this passive, but i think the flop call is probably fine.

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The guy is 46 VPIP with 1.9 aggr, I don't think he's passive at all
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:26 PM
Vinny80 Vinny80 is offline
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Default Re: AK line check vs donk

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to which betsize do you call or fold the river here?

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with this particular river (a club), my plan was to check fold any bet (unless some stupid minbet). I don't see a loose calling station firing 3 times, especially when a scare card hits at the end. If he bets into me here, he's got to have a monster.

That said, if it's not a club, I have no idea how to play that river...
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