50/100 river bluff raise vs Gus Hansen

[piiop]

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still don't see how he calls there since I pull that without T9 maybe 10% of the time..

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Because you don't have T9 there?

[Stinger88]

and because of the results of 1 hand you're saying I don't have T9 way more than a bluff? I'm confused

[piiop]

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and because of the results of 1 hand you're saying I don't have T9 way more than a bluff? I'm confused

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I'm saying there very few hands that you would've played the way you did in this hand and end up having T9.

[gergery]

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since he valuebets thin alot i don't think just calling is very good.....anyway I guess the consensus is that this sucks, and I guess I have to concede since he called with J8, 2nd and 3rd pair...still don't see how he calls there since I pull that without T9 maybe 10% of the time..

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I'll bet Gus has lots of experience with guys playing back light at him due to his style, so has many data points with which to decide when someone is bluffing him.

but i'll ask again, what other T9 hands do you play this way? And what % of your range of T9 hands does that comprise?

-g

[Stinger88]

T98 with any spades, AT9 with nut draw, QT9 with a junk 4th card, T9xx with spades possibly even

[autobet]

I doubt he liked getting raised in this spot, but he is getting 3-1 to call so he only needs to win 1 in 4.

[pete fabrizio]

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since he valuebets thin alot i don't think just calling is very good.....anyway I guess the consensus is that this sucks, and I guess I have to concede since he called with J8, 2nd and 3rd pair...still don't see how he calls there since I pull that without T9 maybe 10% of the time..

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I don't hate this bluff as much as others, as you should be credibly representing 9T. However, I don't think you should do it too much against Gus -- not just because he "calls light," but because he's very smart about the game theory involved here, and knows that he's going to have to call you a reasonable % of the time with 2 pair so that you don't run over him.

[restrikt]

I think raising here is horrendous.

Fold > Call > Raise

[blopp]

How light do you valuepush, do you ever slowplay.

If u have 910 or nothing here its hard to get it work

I know Gus valuebet light, and guess is good enough to call enough with 2 pairs since he know he have to when betting light.

- B

[iggymcfly]

What I don't get is why you don't just bet the flop here. It's an uncoordinated board and you have a piece. Why put yourself in the position of trying to take your junk pair to showdown when you can just take it down on the flop when no one's likely to have anything.