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Old 11-20-2007, 06:57 PM
ike ike is offline
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Default Kelly Criterion, ROI, and Staking

If you're not familiar with Kelly Criterion calculations, read this before continuing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion

It seems like something very much like this could be a very useful tool to MTT players/backers. Having an analytic way to calculate how much of your own action you want to sell in a big tournament or how much of other players action you want to buy would be awesome. The problem is that the Kelly Criterion math I've seen assumes you get paid X : 1 on your bet and win Y% of the time. How can I adapt this to the much more complicated payoff distribution of an MTT?
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:55 PM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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Default Re: Kelly Criterion, ROI, and Staking

There are a few chapters in The Mathematics of Poker that deal with these types of issues, but do not directly answer your specific question. I think that they provide enough insight from which to conclude that your question is probably impossible to answer, due to the variety of buy-ins and payout structures. Additionally, even if we played in the same tournament over and over again, the assumptions about the likelihood of various outcomes for a given player that would be required in the model would be so speculative as to render the end product meaningless IMO.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:03 PM
Luxoris Luxoris is offline
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Default Re: Kelly Criterion, ROI, and Staking

meh. You can still get an average ROI and standard deviation (both factoring in the staking deal) for the players results which should come close enough for a KC calculation. The answer? A boatload of buyins for anything approaching even a 1 standard deviation confidence in not dropping your player before he hits a bit enough cash to turn positive.

Small stakes for a lot of frequent tourney players is probably going to be far more satisfactory than just backing a couple of horses in large buyins.
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