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10-10-2007, 11:41 AM
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3 part question
Hello everyone. I have never posted in this Omaha forum so forgive me for any mistakes. Unfortunately I cannot find a hand convertor for omaha (Ladbrokes) so this will have to do. I have three questions. The first is discussion of a hand.
How bad is this bluff? Does it ever get through? What rivers are we firing another bullet?? I feel you are conquering a particular level so to speak when you make GOOD bluffs based on ranges and the texture of certain boards. I feel fairly certain that it is harder to bluff well in omaha than it is in holdem. Texuck is a rock fwiw, efesp is unknown. efesp sitting in seat 1 with $195.00 - milk-man sitting in seat 2 with $95.66 - stoty sitting in seat 3 with $27.00 [Sitting out] - ramraid sitting in seat 4 with $78.86 - texuck sitting in seat 5 with $177.76 [Dealer] - Maddie84 sitting in seat 6 with $280.16 Maddie84 posted the small blind - $1.00 efesp posted the big blind - $2.00 ** Dealing card to Maddie84: 10 of Hearts, 6 of Spades, King of Spades, 8 of Hearts milk-man folded ramraid folded texuck called - $2.00 Maddie84 called - $2.00 efesp checked ** Dealing the flop: Ace of Hearts, 9 of Hearts, 5 of Spades Maddie84 checked efesp bet - $6.00 texuck called - $6.00 Maddie84 called - $6.00 ** Dealing the turn: Queen of Clubs Maddie84 checked efesp bet - $12.00 texuck called - $12.00 Maddie84 raised - $60.00 Secondly I would like some comments on a situation i have found myself in with a mate. We attempted to qualify for the Leocop (ladbrokes) Omaha event which would have cost $220 + rebuys. I didnt front up anything for the satellite but we cruised through and we're going to play. We also played omaha cash and turned $133 into $415 whilst we were playing the Sat. Here's the thing, my friend is pretty bad at omaha (sorry Dave) and may have got through the Satellite but would not have made the cash (which will be used as rebuys) but he did front up the money. Although i didnt pay him, I would have had to buy-in to the event (halves with him) so I was prepared to but didnt need to... I have agreed to play the event together with him if I pay him $30 (half the satellite costs) and in turn we will get together 2 rebuys ($200 from the $280 we won). If we need to rebuy again we have to go halves. We each get 50% of winnings (which will probably be nothing after all this [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]) What do you guys think, fair deal? Lastly, what is the best way to play an omaha 200 man rebuy mtt which comprises mostly of holdem players. Do we add-on at the beginning and should we play loose or tight. I feel I am a better omaha player than holdem player but do not fancy rebuying 50 times! How bad will the field be considering it will 100% eurpean and it is a decent sized buy in. Cliff notes: Am I terrible? hand included. Complicated staking deal. Tourney infomation question. Many thanks and good luck to everyone 
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#2
10-10-2007, 12:17 PM
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Re: 3 part question
i would just call in this spot - you are not folding any sets out, and you are nicely priced in with a nut draw
as far as your deal goes, you should'nt strike a deal you are not happy with, period. especially one that involes you splitting winnings with someone who sucks, he is simply taking your equity as far as tournment strategy goes, although i havent played recently, laddies is certainly one of the tougher MTT fields you will find, even since the likes of jackson, Goodwin et all stopped playing there regularly. Regardless of game type, my general MTT rebuy strategy is to play tight during rebuys and loose afterwards. in an event like this tho i cant imagine too many players spewing rebuys as a good % will be there via sats. assuming the structure is slow just play a solid game and be prepared to pick spots to gamble
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#3
10-10-2007, 12:32 PM
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Re: 3 part question
[ QUOTE ]
i would just call in this spot - you are not folding any sets out, and you are nicely priced in with a nut draw as far as your deal goes, you should'nt strike a deal you are not happy with, period. especially one that involes you splitting winnings with someone who sucks, he is simply taking your equity as far as tournment strategy goes, although i havent played recently, laddies is certainly one of the tougher MTT fields you will find, even since the likes of jackson, Goodwin et all stopped playing there regularly. Regardless of game type, my general MTT rebuy strategy is to play tight during rebuys and loose afterwards. in an event like this tho i cant imagine too many players spewing rebuys as a good % will be there via sats. assuming the structure is slow just play a solid game and be prepared to pick spots to gamble [/ QUOTE ] Jackson is terrible at omaha, I used to batter him in the cash games on Ladbrokes regularily. As it is always, kid gets lucky in a big tournament and all of a sudden that's meant to make him a 'solid' pro. 6 months of playing omaha against him told me otherwise.
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#8
10-11-2007, 09:07 AM
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Re: 3 part question
well we've got a squeeze going here which is quite nice. main question is whether ef folds, if tex calls you can bluff a lot of rivers imo.
ef's 1/2pot turn bet looks pretty weaksauce but you're not repping much except a turned set or top two. on a purely immediate odds front you need to take it down maybe a third to a quarter of the time (with your outs providing a 25%ish escape hatch). you probably have some implied odds if you hit, and maybe some implied odds on bluffing the river (but you're OOP so i wouldn't factor that in). I guess it's ok, but it's pretty thin. since a lot of your equity is coming from your outs+implied odds, i doubt raising is any better than calling here, and it might be worse. stop playing $200 plo, you're not good enough jimm.
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#9
10-11-2007, 11:59 AM
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Re: 3 part question
Results
efesp called - $60.00 texuck called - $60.00 ** Dealing the river: Ace of Spades Maddie84 checked efesp checked texuck went all-in - $109.76 Maddie84 folded efesp folded texuck mucks: texuck wins $311.76 from the main pot An absolutely disgusting river imo. Having previously noted that Tex is a nit I found it pretty hard to believe he hadn't caught the river. He must have had either 99 or more likely AQ and didn't shove the turn as afraid of a set. Oh well!
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