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Old 09-27-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default bottom 2 pair, and interesting flop action

villain is F4zi or something (I played this hand this morning - so don't remember exactly). Anyway, he runs at about 23/15.5/2.8 or so. I don't remember ever playing him b4, but had about 400 hands on him. So not much of a read.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $420.75
BB: $1,116.00
UTG: $2,057.50
MP: $2,152.50
CO: $1,353.25
Hero (BTN): $1,015.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $25.00

Flop: ($75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $50.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $200.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $500.00</font>, [i]Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:22 PM
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pretty ez shove.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: bottom 2 pair, and interesting flop action

I know I didn't provide a read (didn't have one) - but what kind of range of hands do you put him on - donking, and then almost mini-3-betting.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:26 PM
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Ok so he showed up with 55 and you got owned...come on, this is such an autoshove.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:33 PM
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any overpair, diamonds, combo draws, sets, better two pair. this is a shove versus just about anyone but especially this guy.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:34 PM
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awwwwwwwwww iiinnnnnn
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:34 PM
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Ok so he showed up with 55 and you got owned...come on, this is such an autoshove.

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Thanks - but i'm more interested in figuring out what kind of range of hands takes this line.

I mean he doesn't need 555 to have me in bad shape here. Something like Xc4c - and i'm not in great shape.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:43 PM
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any overpair, diamonds, combo draws, sets, better two pair. this is a shove versus just about anyone but especially this guy.

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Kratzer - you think he's play 88/99 like this? Seems odd. And when you say "especially this guy" - what do you mean? that he's bluffy, or that he raises really light?
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:43 PM
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shove so fast and laugh at his butchered 77 33
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: bottom 2 pair, and interesting flop action

well maybe "any overpair" was a bit of an exaggeration. i only played with him today but he didn't seem to have a problem getting money in the middle. he also didn't seem to be a very good hand reader (not that anyone would put you on 2-4 here). i think there are more hands he will show up with here that you're ahead of than behind.
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