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Old 05-16-2007, 07:03 PM
NMcNasty NMcNasty is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 Hand (Probably boring)

There's also some value from preventing a bluff, but in general I still agree.

c/f > b/f > c/c

If you are trying to foster an aggressive image or already have one I like b/f better though. I understand why king likes it better, with his image I think its superior.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:15 PM
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I think you guys are wayyyyyyy overestimating villain's (Ike's read: "tight and good") tendency to make heroic calls or maybe I just haven't played with ike enough to know that he's superaggro or something.

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The read isn't crystal clear. The guy just sat down. My impression is that ike had played nine or ten hands with the guy and hadn't seen anything crazy. I would think of the villain as unknown, and assume villain thinks the same about OP.

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The K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is just too scary a card on this board for most guys to put him on a 3-barrel IMO. Also notice Ike opened UTG so to call him with Qx you gotta be convinced he has A:diamondX[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]-type stuff, or airish [complete or JJ/1010/88ish]. And without history/crazy image its gonna be real hard for villain to put him on those last hands, esp if he happens to hold the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

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UTG in a 6 handed game means his range is very wide. Ike could've double barreled the turn, thinking this flop is a good one for a lotta villain's hands to peel with, then seen the king as a good scare card to go for a third barrel. My only issue is that with a bluff, I would bet more, so I probably bet closer to pot on the end.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:16 PM
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If you are trying to foster an aggressive image or already have one I like b/f better though. I understand why king likes it better, with his image I think its superior.

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Haha...I'm that crazy, am I?
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:56 PM
MezmerizePLZ MezmerizePLZ is offline
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I think he meant with Ike's image, and I agree with Ike's image its close between b/f and c/f, but as stated villain is an unknown and just sat down, maybe Ike's image isn't important, then again most unknowns are partially brain-dead so.... I still think b/f is best, but is v close and i probably do both. Whats my image in the stars 25/50?
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:16 PM
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Whats my image in the stars 25/50?

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huge loose passive donkey
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:36 PM
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Whats my image in the stars 25/50?

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huge loose passive donkey

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Old 05-16-2007, 10:46 PM
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Maybe I could tell you, if you said your Stars name. Seems like loose passive donkey is probably correct, though.
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:14 AM
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How can you ask him that, and then three minutes later post a hand that you played against him, with reads?
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