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Old 11-17-2007, 09:43 PM
Jailblazers Jailblazers is offline
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Default Tricky spot with JJ NL5

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UTG ($9.64)
Hero ($12.69)
SB ($2.33)
BB ($13.97)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.05, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1.70.

Flop: ($5.32) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $7.14</font>, Hero calls $4.14.


Notes on UTG are: vLP preflop; CSE; does not C-bet; 3-bet preflop w/ 44; minbets marginal strength hands


There is some history between us. He has been limping every hand preflop and raising probably 80% of pots where everyone limps or no one shows weakness (from the blinds). However, he has never limp-reraised. He has 3-bet me a few times so I seat hopped to get to his left.

Preflop: Limp here is standard for him and this guy has been calling every preflop raise I make so I bump it up to .30. Now...he 3bets me and from the note and the way he is, he can be 3-betting here with almost all pocket pairs (I have been isolating him often) and only a very narrow range of high cards like AK, AQ, KQ. So I four bet him and intend on folding to a shove because IMO he only does that with aq+ or qq+. But he just calls, so probably high cards or some medium pocket pair type hands. I'm still keeping his range very wide and excluding KK and AA.

Flop: He checks. IMO, the only hand he's doing this with hands that are worse than mine or a monster (66 or 88). So I bet, he shoves, I am pot-committed. So I call.

Thoughts on this hand?
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: Tricky spot with JJ NL5

I wanted to add. This guy didn't really seem to be caring about the money so I felt that the all-in doesn't really narrow his range to a monster. He just seemed like another donk who would bluff all-in with anything if he puts in a large amount in preflop.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Tricky spot with JJ NL5

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Notes on UTG are: vLP preflop; CSE; does not C-bet; 3-bet preflop w/ 44; minbets marginal strength hands


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Your notes are contradictory. You say he's very loose and passive preflop, but that he three-bet preflop with 44. Very passive players do not three-bet with 44. Given that, it makes it hard to recommend a play. I'm going to assume he's not as passive as you imply (based on your other observations).

Your preflop four-bet basically makes you pot-committed if you flop an overpair, so the postflop play looks totally standard. Given your read you seem fairly confident in your preflop play. So...what exactly is the question?
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Tricky spot with JJ NL5

About the notes: the ONLY time in probably about 80 hands is when he 3bet ME preflop with 44. Other than that, he is VERY Loose-passive. It's kind of hard to explain, but he wasn't really playing back at anyone else. I don't really think I was imagining this because I would understand if I'm him that some guy to my left keeps raising when I limp.

Postflop, I guess this is a marginal situation that I wanted to make sure I got right. Pluggin up leaks one at a time...
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