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Old 10-31-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Check-up on the river when flush hits against a 31/3

Villain hasn't been doing anything but calling really, his AF is only 1.5. He's check/raised top pair on the flop and check/called the turn, I think he's really weak.

This is a shove every time right? It's $102 to him after his bet.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $232.85
BTN: $207
SB: $180.95
Hero (BB): $208.85
UTG: $411.90
MP: $211.95

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB calls $6

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, SB calls $14

Turn: ($44) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $38</font>, SB calls $38

River: ($120) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $18</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $148.85 and is All-In</font>
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:55 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: Check-up on the river when flush hits against a 31/3

I don't really like it because like you said the villain is either really weak or really strong. so why do u think he'll call your raise with a really weak hand?
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Check-up on the river when flush hits against a 31/3

I figured like A8 might call, or A6, or maybe smaller two pair.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: Check-up on the river when flush hits against a 31/3

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I figured like A8 might call, or A6, or maybe smaller two pair.

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yeah, i kinda figured those would be the hands that would call also. i guess, it really depends on your read, when he did anything but call was that with only made hands or draws as well.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: Check-up on the river when flush hits against a 31/3

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I figured like A8 might call, or A6, or maybe smaller two pair.

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and there's no way he has a smaller two pair other than A8 or A6 right?
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Check-up on the river when flush hits against a 31/3

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I figured like A8 might call, or A6, or maybe smaller two pair.

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yeah, i kinda figured those would be the hands that would call also. i guess, it really depends on your read, when he did anything but call was that with only made hands or draws as well.

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Like I said, he check/raised top pair, I think it was KT on a K94 two-club board. Turn was an 9c, and he check-called. River was a club and it checked through.

I haven't seen him bet out into someone yet, it's only been ~50 hands at the most though.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: Check-up on the river when flush hits against a 31/3

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I figured like A8 might call, or A6, or maybe smaller two pair.

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yeah, i kinda figured those would be the hands that would call also. i guess, it really depends on your read, when he did anything but call was that with only made hands or draws as well.

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Like I said, he check/raised top pair, I think it was KT on a K94 two-club board. Turn was an 9c, and he check-called. River was a club and it checked through.

I haven't seen him bet out into someone yet, it's only been ~50 hands at the most though.

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so we know he plays his TP hands strong, but we dont know how he plays his draws. it's thin, but probably can't be that bad. And since he's a donk, you can probably win it back even if he has u beat.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Check-up on the river when flush hits against a 31/3

I was getting ready to type "call river" untill I noticed his bet size. I'm not sure if it makes me more or less likely that he's got a monster. If he's really bad, maybe that's a value bet to him.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: Check-up on the river when flush hits against a 31/3

I was about to type "WTF" until I realized it was BvB.

This looks fine.
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