PLO8 final table - low cards - what do you do?

[SmackeytheFrog]

600/1200 blinds - 8 players remain- PLO8 $55

Seat 1: (8218 in chips)
Seat 2: HERO (7972 in chips)
Seat 3: (43893 in chips)
Seat 4: (12548 in chips)
Seat 5: (20306 in chips)
Seat 6: (12384 in chips)
Seat 7: (8771 in chips)
Seat 8: (14908 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind 600
seat 3: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [4c 2d 4s 3s]
UTG raises 3000 to 4200

Folds around to me. I never know what to do with all low cards at the higher blinds. All I can say, is that I have finally achieved the ability to play for the win, not just to not-lose. I am not afraid to push. But is this a pushing hand? I see people push it all the time, but there's at least one ace in his hand, and I need one on the board to scoop I would think. Is it -EV here to play this hand? Am I always playing for half?

[ddtrio]

fold and wait for a better opportunity; you are probably no better than 42%/58% against any raising hand.

[TxRedMan]

fold here imo

[SuperChok]

Fold, a drawing hand like that has not much value HU especially when calling will commit you. A push is even worse as you have 0,01% FE (misclicks included...:-)
In a similar situation you'd rather play (push) a hand like AAxx, KKxx or even QQxx which are much better off HU.

[SmackeytheFrog]

OK good. That's what I did, folded. I just see these hands played so fast, not just by donks, but by players with winning tournament records. I just wasn't ready to start taking chances like that. Ended up 5th anyway so I was happy.

So these hands are good for calls when there's low chance of pot raises preflop, and that's about it. Is this the consensus?

[SuperChok]

Well, it depends on your position, stack sizes and players who have called in front of you.
Let's say you're on the button and UTG raises pot with 2-3 callers, then I would call 10/10 assuming the opponents have fairly stack sizes. As already said it's a great drawing hand but only in a multiway pot where you are given the right pot odds.

[Gone Forever]

I see three reasons for folding.

1.) Since you're facing a raise of over half your stack, you have 0 fold equity.
2.) You are the small blind and get to see the next 7 hands for free.
3.) Finally, your hand is better suited for a large multiway pot. If you were to put it all on the line with this one, 90% of the time you're going to need to improve to have a real shot of taking it down. This hand is great for sneaking into a large pot and flopping or turning a monster.


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[wackjob]

wait for a better spot.