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Old 10-12-2007, 05:27 AM
Pugwash Pugwash is offline
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Default Final Table $20+$2 - 4/45 - is this a bad call?

Here's the situation.

BB is biggest stack
UTG is medium
CO is virtually broke
Hero is SB and 2nd biggest stack

The action is folded around to me. I'm holding JJ. BB is multi-tlabing and playing tight and aggressive. I have been stealing a lot of his blinds quite easily.

I raise about 3x the BB and he shoves. I call with the reasoning that a. I have a good hand against his possible range b. he might just be playing back at me.

He shows AJo and flops an Ace.

Although 4th place paid, 3rd paid 50% more. Should I have folded and waited for the CO to be blinded out?
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:33 AM
Rocco Rocco is offline
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Default Re: Final Table $20+$2 - is this a bad call?

Depends on whether the 50% extra is increasing your bankroll significantly, or not. I always aim for 1st when I get this far and wouldn't mind a gamble against big stack. This was just bad luck, and I'm sure you wouldn't have made the post had you won this hand, right?
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: Final Table $20+$2 - 4/45 - is this a bad call?

yes, its obviously a bad call getting it in as a 70/30 favorite with the chance of getting a near invincible stack to run the rest of the table over with.

cmon dude, wtf.
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: Final Table $20+$2 - 4/45 - is this a bad call?

Results oriented FTL.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:12 AM
AbraCadabra16 AbraCadabra16 is offline
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Default Re: Final Table $20+$2 - 4/45 - is this a bad call?

MTT's are different than SNG's....in sng's the payout structure is so flat that you aim for the money and wait out shortstacks...however in MTT's you have to always aim for first because its so much more money than anything else. good play bad luck.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:16 AM
ssnyc ssnyc is offline
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Default Re: Final Table $20+$2 - 4/45 - is this a bad call?

two things...he has been laying aggressive but letting you steal his blinds...he is probably getting frustrated and making a stand...you got it in as a huge favorite which can never be a bad thing...I know that there is a crippled stack out there and a lot of paeople advocate waiting but I personally can't let this edge go
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:24 AM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: Final Table $20+$2 - 4/45 - is this a bad call?

cEV & $EV have definitely diverged but this is waay to +cEV for it not to be +$EV.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:36 AM
Crash0veride Crash0veride is offline
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Default Re: Final Table $20+$2 - 4/45 - is this a bad call?

I raise this and hope to get played back at and snap call.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Final Table $20+$2 - 4/45 - is this a bad call?

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I know that there is a crippled stack out there and a lot of people advocate waiting but I personally can't let this edge go

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OP, before you post another hand (and I absolutely encourage that you keep posting here), ask yourself if you would have posted the hand if you had won the pot.

These forums are at their best when the collective ability/and experience of its participants can work toward solving a problem, not consoling someone over getting unlucky.

Correct play, bad result, blah blah blah.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Final Table $20+$2 - 4/45 - is this a bad call?

bbv
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