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Old 08-28-2007, 04:08 AM
Pugwash Pugwash is offline
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Default QQ facing strong UTG raise

Hi,

This is one of my first posts on 2+2, so please be gentle.

I would appreciate your thoughts on this situation. Latter stages of a $10+$1 MTT. I am dealt QQ in the CO. I have a little over $12K and M=6. I am slightly above the average stack.

UTG has just joined the table and has me easily covered. He raises to $6,000. It's folded around to me.

Hero?

Do you agree that this looks like a tough difficult push/fold decision? My thinking here is that I can conserve my chips for a better situation and UTG raise 6xBB means that I am likely behind.

Am I wrong to lean towards folding?
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:29 AM
JammyDodga JammyDodga is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing strong UTG raise

I'm pretty suprised you even consider folding, this really is an instant push.

You have an M of 6, you don't have time to wait for a better situation, but that's beside the point, you have qq, the 3rd best hand in poker, and you are considering folding after 1 player has acted??? This is very very weak very bad poker.

Online I very, very rarely fold qq pre-flop. I would have to see a raise UTG, a re-raise, and a re-re-raise before I even thought about it. Just because you see 1010, jj and AQ/AK as often as you see kk,aa.

Also, he raises 6*BB UTG, what makes you think this is a strong bet? If he has AA or KK, he'd want to be called. You useually see this hand betting anywere between 2-5 BBs. 6 tells me, I have a good hand, but I'ma little scared to play it UTG, which means 1010, JJ, QQ, AQ, AK, and not AA or KK. Against this range you are a big favourite, and should be more than happy to get your chips in.
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:33 AM
Tackleberry Tackleberry is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing strong UTG raise

Hello Pugwash,

welcome to the forum :-)

This is an easy insta-push for me!! IŽll never fold QQ with an M of 6. You are by far in no comfortable situation and have to be eager to double up and this could easily be a wonderful situation. Villain could easily have a range of 88+,AJs+,KQs,AQo+,KQo. Against this range you are a huge favourite:

Hand 0: 38.605% 37.65% 00.95% 282386808 7144722.00 { 88+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 61.395% 60.44% 00.95% 453312900 7144722.00 { QQ }

And why are you expecting to be behind when Villain raises 6xBB? This looks more like a smaller PP to me - or would you raise 6BB with AA?

=> Get it all in and start dancing [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img].
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:34 AM
Tackleberry Tackleberry is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing strong UTG raise

Ooops - too late [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:27 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing strong UTG raise

it's christmas

shove it in
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing strong UTG raise

push and be very very happy about it...
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing strong UTG raise

Didn't really read anything other than 'I have QQ and some dude overraises', push.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:02 PM
Malifous Malifous is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing strong UTG raise

No point folding, coinflip probably but im pretty sure your atleast a small favourite.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: QQ facing strong UTG raise

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No point folding, coinflip probably but im pretty sure your atleast a small favourite.

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Small favorite against AK. Villain probably doesn't play AA/KK this way. You are crushing anything else.
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: QQ facing strong UTG raise

You've got to be thrilled to pickup QQ in this spot, with an M of 6 it's an insta-push. Heck I would be pushing JJ and 10 10 here just the same, you just can't wait for another spot with an M of 6. You have to let your M make this decision for you, makes life much easier at the tables, LOL!
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