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Old 07-11-2006, 02:04 PM
Andrew Karpinski Andrew Karpinski is offline
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Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (2.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: (2.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 4.25 BB
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:11 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Every street looks good to me. Played like a pro.
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:32 PM
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I dont necessarily like the way it looks
But I cant really come up with a better line
nh
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:41 PM
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Against an unknown I think I'd bet flop, check/call turn, then c/c river again or bet if he checked turn behind.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:17 PM
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Preflop: I don't always raise a bad ace in spots like this, but I think this is something that should be done more often than not. As of this point you have the best hand so you might as well get some value out of it.

Flop: Since you called preflop, I think checking is fine because your hand is disguised, but after he bets I think you want to raise him. He probably won't put you on an ace, and will pay you off with something like a pair of queens. If he's just taking a stab at the pot with something like 87s you aren't going to get any more money out of him anyway. By slowplaying, I don't think you are getting paid off by a weak pair here, and you give the hands that completely missed a chance to catch a miracle and beat you.

Just my opinion...
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:21 PM
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I like a flop check-call. I would bet the turn. With 2 other broadways on the board it's likely that villian will have a piece or gutshot. However, he may be more inclined to check behind with those hands, so I think we need to bet. The pot is small enough that I don't mind bet-folding the turn.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:58 PM
Andrew Karpinski Andrew Karpinski is offline
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Results :
He showed 36s for a whole lot of nothing.
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Old 07-11-2006, 06:48 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Against an unknown I think I'd bet flop, check/call turn, then c/c river again or bet if he checked turn behind.

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If you bet this flop, with this strong of a hand, then you dont know how to play in small pots.
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Old 07-11-2006, 07:00 PM
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Perfect.

I couldn't bet/fold the turn here. It's better to c/c ...he's definitely betting with any piece (or possibly air) when checked to.
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Old 07-11-2006, 07:37 PM
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Against an unknown I think I'd bet flop, check/call turn, then c/c river again or bet if he checked turn behind.

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If you bet this flop, with this strong of a hand, then you dont know how to play in small pots.

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i havent read lately but im happy to see that incorrect advice is still dispensed with arrogant superiority.
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