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Old 11-30-2007, 11:00 AM
iron81 iron81 is offline
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Default Re: Another Stupid Peace Initiative for Israel/Arabs

It sounds like Prime Minister Olmert gets it. AP Story:

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In unusually frank comments, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert warned in an interview published Thursday that "the state of Israel is finished" if a Palestinian state is not created, saying the alternative is a South Africa-style apartheid struggle.

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Comparing the current situation to Apartheid is of course accurate: the white newcomers are segregating and oppressing the local population. But Olmert takes the comparison a step farther, pointing out that the Demographic Bomb is working against Israel and that giving the Palestinians concessions actually improves Israel's long term security.

He says that one of these days, the Palestinians are going to stop pressing for a two-state solution and start pressing for a one-state solution: granting the Palestinians the right to vote in Israel. He's looking 50 to 100 years down the road and accurately predicting that without action, they are going to get it and on that day, Jewish rule of Israel will be finished.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: Another Stupid Peace Initiative for Israel/Arabs

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It sounds like Prime Minister Olmert gets it. AP Story:

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In unusually frank comments, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert warned in an interview published Thursday that "the state of Israel is finished" if a Palestinian state is not created, saying the alternative is a South Africa-style apartheid struggle.

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Comparing the current situation to Apartheid is of course accurate: the white newcomers are segregating and oppressing the local population. But Olmert takes the comparison a step farther, pointing out that the Demographic Bomb is working against Israel and that giving the Palestinians concessions actually improves Israel's long term security.

He says that one of these days, the Palestinians are going to stop pressing for a two-state solution and start pressing for a one-state solution: granting the Palestinians the right to vote in Israel. He's looking 50 to 100 years down the road and accurately predicting that without action, they are going to get it and on that day, Jewish rule of Israel will be finished.

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ahahaha

Seriously, with the Jews one of the most educated and politically powerful global constituents that last line is way too much. Just look how much money is spent here in the United States by Jewish philanthropists on heritage tours for their kids and such.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Another Stupid Peace Initiative for Israel/Arabs

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It sounds like Prime Minister Olmert gets it

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The majority of Israelis disagree with you. The man is seen as a joke in Israel.

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Comparing the current situation to Apartheid is of course accurate

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No, its not. Im not going into this again here - we have already discussed this in another thread.


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the white newcomers are segregating and oppressing the local population

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Have you ever been to Israel? If you had, you would know how ridiculous this statement is, for many reasons.

Well, the demographic issue is a new one recently invented by the left wing to persuade Israelis that it is in their best interests to give murderous Palestinians a terrorist state on large lengths of Israels borders. As few Israelis are stupid enough to believe that the security situation would improve in Israel if this happened, they need a ticking bomb theory.

I dont have time now to find links, but this theory has been rejected by many people, including those who agree to an eventual 2 state solution. In any case, the first responsibility of any Israeli government should be to protect their people or at least not expose them to unneccesary danger. Giving the Palestinians/Hamas a state now would place the majority of the population in immediate danger and would send a very positive message to those Palestinians and arabs that wish to see Israel totally destroyed.
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