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Old 09-23-2007, 03:16 AM
rothko rothko is offline
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Default 25nl flopped two pair, value bet scary river?

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value bet or check behind?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($24.65)
CO ($50.70)
Hero ($23.65)
SB ($29.15)
BB ($43.15)
UTG ($19.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.60) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>, BB calls $1.25.

Turn: ($4.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.25</font>, BB calls $3.25.

River: ($10.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero?
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:36 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: 25nl flopped two pair, value bet scary river?

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value bet or check behind?

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I don't know either, but in practice, for better or worse, I would probably check behind.

It doesn't help matters any that, from what I can tell, the river bluff-raise seems to be gaining in popularity. I don't think what I just said applies to river checkraises as much as plain old river raises, but I am saying that I don't think you have an easy fold if you're, say, checkraised smallish, but I'd expect to lose more often than not when facing such a checkraise.

Edit: JT was double-gutted on the turn, too, and I think this hurts the case for a bet considerably.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:46 AM
mdm13 mdm13 is offline
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Default Re: 25nl flopped two pair, value bet scary river?

Check behind, you may get some value from AK, A7, AJ and AT, or someone who for some reason thinks you are bluffing, but you will be called by straights, flushes, slowplayed sets, and better two pairs, all of which could very well be in an unknowns range.
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