AK...I CALL a 4 bet PF... then fold the flop. This is ugly

[tannenj]

not a big fan of the 3bet. i'd definitely fold to the 4bet.

[ikestoys]

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What's all this fold pre-flop stuff ??

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Hero calls $13.50

Flop: ($69)


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To whoever said his implied odds stink - he's already getting pot odds to flop an Ace or King against QQ, not even INCLUDING implied odds.

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1.) What implied odds does he have? How does he play if he hits a K? How does he get paid if he hits his A?

2.)The villain is a super fish, 50/5. He isn't raising here with anything < KK IMO.

[Better Than U]

What Ike said, but I don't feel like quoting his post and wasting space.

[niffe9]

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2.)The villain is a super fish, 50/5. He isn't raising here with anything < KK IMO.

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A pfr of 5 doesn't really say as much as you think about a villains 4 betting range. Villain is still 50 VPIP and could be be likely to make some unpredictable/questionable plays. That being said, with no reads on the guy I like the muck pfr too.

[niffe9]

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not a big fan of the 3bet. i'd definitely fold to the 4bet.

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What's wrong with the 3 bet?

[ikestoys]

4 handed 3bet with AK is incredibly standard

[good2cu]

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not a big fan of the 3bet. i'd definitely fold to the 4bet.

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lol?

I'd shove preflop for sure.

[ikestoys]

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not a big fan of the 3bet. i'd definitely fold to the 4bet.

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lol?

I'd shove preflop for sure.

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with this villain? no...

[Tickner]

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not a big fan of the 3bet. i'd definitely fold to the 4bet.

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lol?

I'd shove preflop for sure.

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this was my initial thought, shove. then i seen his PFR is 5, fold... then i got confused, so I jsut called (prob worst option)

why is this an easy shove?

[PleaseSignal]

shoving > folding > calling IMO in most casses, switch up folding for shoving if ppl 3bet only AA/KK/QQ