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Old 11-10-2007, 03:51 PM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

Think of how many hands you could play after you fold! Definite fold. You can find a much better spot to put your chips in. Only fish put their tournament life on the line that early...above all else, survival is paramount - it's a tournament.
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

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Fold, your TOURNAMENT LIFE is at stake, wait until you have someone drawing dead before you go all in.

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QFT you saw what happened to IWEARGOOGLES when that fish couldnt fold AA
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Old 11-10-2007, 03:57 PM
M1cKmAcK M1cKmAcK is offline
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

I thought we were talking heads up here...

if there are two people already in the pot all in... that DOES make a difference, but zen is right i don't think i'm gonna fold... maybe thats the gambler in me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think it pretty much comes down to whether you want to triple up as a favorite or pick a better spot. I'm calling here expecting KK, QQ, or AK.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

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I thought we were talking heads up here...

if there are two people already in the pot all in... that DOES make a difference, ...

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Really?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.616% 61.33% 01.30% 16618610338 353271285.75 { AA }
Hand 1: 13.367% 13.10% 00.27% 3548820200 74246042.08 { TT+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 12.011% 11.20% 00.81% 3035310722 220242744.08 { TT+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 3: 12.006% 11.19% 00.81% 3033473479 220612853.08 { TT+, AJs+, AQo+ }

Aah ... now I see what you mean: a 60% chance to quadruple is really much better than an 80% chance to just double up. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

oh cmon of course this is retarded
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

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oh cmon of course this is retarded

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It's not just retarded, it's borderline lead paint chip buffet eaten by high voltage power lines next to a leaking nuclear reactor retarded.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

There was a thread in the past in which somebody advocated folding AA preflop in situations where every player before you was all-in with a deep stack.

We all lol'd
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

These situations are what good bankroll management is for; insta call.
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:19 PM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

Even considering calling with AA when everyone else has gone in is awful -- it's absolutely horrific & you're almost certain to bust out. It's even -cEV:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 06.133% 01.39% 04.76% 227713 778695.63 { AA }
Hand 1: 06.132% 01.39% 04.76% 227608 778698.63 { AA }
Hand 2: 14.942% 14.97% 00.01% 2451103 847.13 { 7s6s }
Hand 3: 15.868% 15.90% 00.01% 2602963 847.13 { 9d8d }
Hand 4: 15.603% 15.63% 00.01% 2559605 847.13 { JcTc }
Hand 5: 13.219% 13.24% 00.01% 2168345 847.13 { 5h4h }
Hand 6: 11.655% 11.67% 00.01% 1911688 847.13 { 22 }
Hand 7: 16.447% 16.48% 00.01% 2698161 847.13 { KK }
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: 1st hand wsop. Some donk goes all in, u got AA. Do u call ???

Serious about that?! If so, this thread gets even worse ...

What should that demonstrate? How great is the probability that two players have AA????

Substitute the second AA against QQ and you´re a 20% favourite to 10x your stack.
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