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| View Poll Results: The best tactic for showing hands is | |||
| showing hands opposite your style of play to create your desired image (show bluffs if your tight, show big hands if your lag) |
   
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9 | 14.06% |
| showing big hands and bluffs equally to confuse opponents |
  
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4 | 6.25% |
| to never show your hand, to keep the most information hidden. |
  
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51 | 79.69% |
| Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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#11
05-23-2007, 10:19 AM
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Re: A 3-bet pot poll.
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[ QUOTE ] quick thoughts: any A check/call any J check/call any K shove (4) any Q shove (4) any T shove (4) any 5,9 shove (8) any 6,7,8 check/fold any 2-4 check/fold so I'd shove 20 out of 46 turns... so thats ~43% [/ QUOTE ] Why do you prefer c/c over shoving an A or J? [/ QUOTE ] The off chance he thinks we are making a play which is likely given the history he could float this small raise planning to shove a lot of turns so we can pick off those hands. Thinking about it more though I think a T on the turn is a fold as 99 represents a lot of his range so I'd bet even less. 
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#12
05-23-2007, 10:19 AM
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Re: A 3-bet pot poll.
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I probably shove any Ace or spade and c/f everything else. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Flop comes 678r, without backdoorflush for you. [/ QUOTE ]
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#14
05-23-2007, 10:25 AM
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Re: A 3-bet pot poll.
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I probably shove any Ace or spade and c/f everything else. [/ QUOTE ] Much rather shove a diamond [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] As to the question, I'd probably say something like 20% and that would be largely down to 'feel'... Not sure how to explain it, but I'm shoving an ace for sure.
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#15
05-23-2007, 10:26 AM
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Re: A 3-bet pot poll.
Damnit, too late...
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#16
05-23-2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: A 3-bet pot poll.
just under 25% of the time
This assumes 11 almost-outs: shove turned ace shove turned ten or turned 5 (checkcall turned jack) If opponent was a bit of a folderson and not very good (ie would assign equal probability to you cr'ing a combo draw or naked oesd with the dummy end of the straight in addition to the top end), you could shove 40%. Thats 19 outs to "hit" (touch?). Four 5s, four 4s, four 9s, four tens, 3 aces. These calculations are very rough and simplistic, and dont account for villain calling a certain % of the time as opposed to 100%, and they dont take into account pot size, either.Ie they dont give an EV calc.
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#17
05-23-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: A 3-bet pot poll.
this guy has two nines, two tens, two jacks, and maaaaybe two queens 97% of the time (accurate).
his range is weight to two tens, almost exclusively, with two jacks second most likely, and queens- nines a toss us for least likely... but not much else is really feasible, except possibly pair+straight draw with random garbage-ish type hands. i believe the answer is to bet about 40% of turns. all spades for sure, shove them, and it's not close... i'd still try to move him off this hand a good % of the time when i whiffed the turn, and DEF bet a jack, and almost always chekc an ace......
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#19
05-23-2007, 03:04 PM
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Re: A 3-bet pot poll.
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[ QUOTE ] Why do you shove a spade, Eagles? Randomizing factor? [/ QUOTE ] Misread the OP thought we had a BDFD [/ QUOTE ] we do, and we should shove a spade
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05-23-2007, 03:06 PM
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Re: A 3-bet pot poll.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why do you shove a spade, Eagles? Randomizing factor? [/ QUOTE ] Misread the OP thought we had a BDFD [/ QUOTE ] we do, and we should shove a spade [/ QUOTE ] Flop comes 678r, without backdoorflush for you.
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