JJ on monotone

Kimpan · #1 09-04-2007, 06:13 AM

PartyPoker $100 NL Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks & Stats
CO ($75.74)
SB ($99.73)
BB ($83.09)
MP ($125.88) (22/14/3.04/19) (858h)
UTG ($71.92)
Hero ($178.08)

Preflop: Hero is BU with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 folds, MP raises to $5, 1 folds, Hero raises to $16.50, 2 folds, MP calls $11.50.

Flop: ($34.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets $30, Hero raises to $161.58 (all-in)

jeccross · #2 09-04-2007, 06:18 AM

I don't like this much, I think if we're ahead (which I'm not sure is very likely) then we're either not getting called or we're not far ahead (AsK e.g). If we're behind we're generally getting called (and drawing v slim), might force QQ out with no s.

I think we have to fold as even if we call there's not much we like on the turn, Jd only and even that's vulnerable)

EDIT - make that not ahead of AsK.

Orsman · #3 09-04-2007, 06:23 AM

I would fold to his lead. This is not a flop that you want to commit with JJ(no re-draw) on. You are never a favorite when he calls your shove.

minSim · #4 09-04-2007, 07:22 AM

How do we play JJd?

jeccross · #5 09-04-2007, 07:26 AM

I presume you mean JJs? I think that only really helps us if villain has a set, in which case we should fold anyway, so I'd say it's probably still a fold? Thoughts anyone?

minSim · #6 09-04-2007, 07:32 AM

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I presume you mean JJs? I think that only really helps us if villain has a set, in which case we should fold anyway, so I'd say it's probably still a fold? Thoughts anyone?

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Sorry, I meant JJs indeed. After that, it's interesting to look at QQs, KKs and AAs.

hongster · #7 09-04-2007, 08:21 AM

Villain is hardly ever-bluff leading this flop, since it is so easy for you to shove over with a wide range. Thus, he is already ahead, or only marginally behind. I'd just fold. TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if villain called and you got shown AA/KK/QQ, even without the A/K/Q of spades.