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Old 01-03-2007, 12:31 AM
Claunchy Claunchy is offline
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Default NL400: Weakly-played QQ

Villain in this hand is solid from what I can tell (don't have a ton of reads on 400NL regs yet but this guy appears to be one).

I thought the turn was an obvious check behind. Agreed?
Is this pretty much standard?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($578.70)
SB ($378)
BB ($698.10)
UTG ($240)
Hero ($533.30)
CO ($189.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $20, SB calls $18, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $16.

Flop: ($84) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, Button folds, SB calls $60, UTG folds.

Turn: ($204) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($204) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $140</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $344

Should I have called the river? Cause I would have called a blank river, and I can't really see him having an ace.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:51 AM
bigballz bigballz is offline
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Default Re: NL400: Weakly-played QQ

yea but could easily be a 45s type of hand. I'd bet turn and as played fold river.
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: NL400: Weakly-played QQ

I don't think the turn check is standard at all here. If he flopped a straight is he really c/c the flop with others still to act after him? Same with a set. Seems really bad. Only hand I truly worry about is 64s.

As played, river looks like a fold since lots of 2pers got there as well as 1pers that rivered a straight.
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: NL400: Weakly-played QQ

Calling preflop w/ 64s would be pretty bad wouldn't it? OOP and not closing the action?

I guess I made his range too narrow but I figured a PP was about all he could have here, and I didn't see him c/c'ing the flop w/ like 88.
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: NL400: Weakly-played QQ

Yes it would be bad. But that is the only hand that could take this line. Even A4 most definetly puts some sort of raise on the flop. So what I was saying is that 64s is the only hand I worry about having us beat. Sets and lower straights play this hand differently.
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: NL400: Weakly-played QQ

he had ak
thats a line some morons take with that
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: NL400: Weakly-played QQ

why not bet this turn?
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: NL400: Weakly-played QQ

Don't check behind on the turn 100% of the time with overpairs.

I understand for pot control/bluff inducing etc. but it helps prevent [censored] situations on the river like this where we have no idea if we are good or not.
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