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Old 11-03-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Do you fold this?

Should I get away from this pot on turn after being reraised?

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.50
UTG+1: $4.50
CO: $2.90
Hero: $10.20
SB: $7.40
BB: $9.35

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.5, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.5, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.5</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $10.1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG calls all-in $2.9</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.2 returned to Hero.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($20.3, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $20.3)


Results:
Final pot: $20.3
<font color="#ffffff">UTG showed Jc 5h 8d Th</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed 7c Jd Tc Ah</font>
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:08 PM
DonCologne DonCologne is offline
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Default Re: Do you fold this?

Nearly every single card in the deck can possible make a higher hand for UTG. The best you can get without any redraw is to split the pot and UTG is surely freeroling you in this spot.
So flat call (the 0,5$ bet) seems fine and if a scare card comes at the river and its checked to you (if its heads up against UTG), you can try to get the whole pot with beting out.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: Do you fold this?

I might fold this preflop. On turn the math says fold because if the person is freerolling to heart flush you have 40% equity in a pot worth $12 which is less than the 8 more bucks you need to invest.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Do you fold this?

no. I have the nuts.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:22 PM
DonCologne DonCologne is offline
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Default Re: Do you fold this?

The nuts with an equity in the worst case of 26,25% (against ThJhKsAs is not much worth.

Best equity hero can have is 50% and the best equity villain can have is 73,75%. So what do you think, which player playes has an higher EV, hero or villain, when all chips goes in the middle at the turn?
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Do you fold this?

You really fold this from button? And it's true that math sais fold, but this in case i know that willain is freerolling. What I wanted to know if it's reasonable to put villain on str8 + FD in case the pot is re-raised here.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: Do you fold this?

std.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: Do you fold this?

If i flat call this small bet on turn I cannot get any information from villain at all. Maybe he has both flush draws instead but no str8. Then I'm virtually giving him a free card.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Do you fold this?

You get information on river, because you have position.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Do you fold this?

Maybe I made a mistake by giving the results at once. If the cards are known there is really nothing to discuss about this hand.
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