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Old 07-05-2007, 10:19 AM
cero_z cero_z is offline
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

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Anyone who says this is not even close is a retard, your faced with a decision where you have at best 50% equity and your telling me that the decision to call off your chips is not even close? [censored] fish..

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Lots of spots where you have at best 50% equity and are calling off your chips are no-brainer calls. This spot is not one of them, since: a)you don't have 50% equity at best--you could be quite a bit better or somewhat worse, and b)you're getting 3:2, which is not a huge price given that you aren't sure where you stand. However, it's fairly clear that your equity is greater than the 40% required to break even, so this actually isn't very close at all.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

Cero,

We are getting 1.5 / 1 and we are 2/1 to draw out our Flush and you think this is a good call? (I think Ace Jack, sounds like he'd have raised Q's or 10's.)

KE
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:52 AM
cero_z cero_z is offline
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

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Cero,

We are getting 1.5 / 1 and we are 2/1 to draw out our Flush and you think this is a good call? (I think Ace Jack, sounds like he'd have raised Q's or 10's.)

KE

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LOL we're 1.8:1 to hit a flush, and we do not need to hit a flush to win a substantial amount of the time. This is not always trip Jacks and some of you seem to not realize that.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

What happens if I flat call and sb shoves? (sb is the best player at the table by far and only playing this low b/c this is the biggest game running atm)

edit: sb has been playing his A game.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

fold. might be a +EV call but extremely high variance.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

OMG 3 ways with nut draw? HELL YEAHZ!
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

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OMG 3 ways with nut draw? HELL YEAHZ!

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On a paired board...
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:41 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

SNAP call if we're last to act, beat him into the pot, i thin kyou find a smaller flush draw more than anything, honestly.

with people left to act, i tend to think you can toss a coin w./o a physical read on them
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

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fold. might be a +EV call but extremely high variance.

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winning players at these stakes tend not to shy away from high variance plays. the nature of high stakes is that your edge is very small over these players, so everything is going to be high variance.
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Old 07-05-2007, 09:36 PM
holla-at-yoboy holla-at-yoboy is offline
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Default Re: Strange Open Shove 10/25 Rio

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winning players at these stakes tend not to shy away from high variance plays. the nature of high stakes is that your edge is very small over these players, so everything is going to be high variance.

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apparantly you haven't played 10/25 at rio, i still call here tho.
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