NL400 - JJ oop, river call?

klb. · #1 11-13-2007, 11:58 AM

I've only played about 40 hands with villain, despite the fact that he doesn't sit on a fullstack he seems solid, TAGish. He's running at 21/17/3 (still only about 40 hands, no mining). I don't think he have played any larger pots and he haven't showed down any hands. I've been playing 24/20 but I haven't been in any larger pots either, he probably haven't took any notice to me. I post my logic later on.

B2B No Limit Hold'em Cashgame
Blinds: €2,00 / €4,00
Players: 6
B2B Hand Converter from One Of A Kind

BB (€353,20)
UTG (€400,00)
MP (€500,60)
CO (€111,00)
Button (€104,90)
SB - Hero (€396,00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls €4,00, 1 fold, Hero raises with €18,00, BB calls €14,00, 1 fold

Flop: (€40,00) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets €33,00, BB calls €33,00

Turn: (€106,00) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (€106,00) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets €86,00, Hero calls €86,00

Laetus · #2 11-13-2007, 12:02 PM

I don't like it at all. Yeah, he reps a pretty small range, but I don't know why he would turn a small pair/king into a bluff on river etc

traz · #3 11-13-2007, 12:02 PM

not a fan of calling river. I don't think he's valuebetting worse, and I don't think this line is a bluff very often

klb. · #4 11-14-2007, 10:31 AM

On the turn I figured the best play was to check and vbet river, but when the ace hit I thought a vbet with jacks would be a little to thin, he can easily put me on an ace and he probably wont pay me off with anything worse. Instead I check and he bets, but in my eyes his line doesn't make any sense. On the flop he could easily call with a king or lower pp, he might peel an ace and probably float air once in a while. My standard here is to check turn and extract value from pp's at river, if he fires I will usually call atleast once. But when he checks behind I think hes range is heavily weighted to low pp hands wanting a cheap showdown. What TAG would check an unhit ace here?, I guess he could check a king but most of the time he probably bets it? So I really don't see anything that beats me very likely at the river, it could be a vbet from a king, but most players check it behind here. I would vbet but I think most opponents don't. So it's either a vbet from a king or a small pp turned into a bluff most of the time. I guess it could be an ace and total air to, but the probability for that is very small and about equal, so I just rule 'em out against eachother. But all in all I think he will have a small pp a majority of the time, and I onlu need to be good 31% of the time so I call.

Thoughts? Obv. I can't have and I don't have this good of a read (40 hands), it's made much of logical guesses and of how a TAGish opponent at the site plays. I really think I will be good >31% of the time.

danjohncochane · #5 11-14-2007, 10:58 AM

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I really think I will be good >31% of the time.

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Lol I Don't