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Old 11-05-2007, 08:45 PM
WHEN_WE_ESCAPE WHEN_WE_ESCAPE is offline
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Default That\'s some flop!

35/15/2.8

BB ($500)
UTG ($400)
MP ($833.20)
Button ($2052.70)
Hero ($396)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $6, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($24) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $214</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $428</font>, Hero calls $174 (All-In)
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:26 PM
whorasaurus whorasaurus is offline
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Default Re: That\'s some flop!

you forgot your fistpump.

also, you reged on my b-day, congrats
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:48 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: That\'s some flop!

Fold preflop.

If KQo is ahead of his raising range from MP, then reraise preflop.

I find it unlikely that you are ahead with 2-pair when he could easily have AT, JJ, QQ, or KK. Sure, he might have AK or QJ or AA, but I doubt he'd stack off with those hands on this flop. He might even have 9Ts since he made a raise that you didn't challenge with a reraise. He might also have some combo draw that he's playing fast on the flop.

But that's the problem with being OOP with top 2-pair short-handed in a raised but not reraised pot. You have a great hand, but it really isn't that good for your whole stack. But you can't see what he does before you have to act. So, all I can say is that you probably should have folded or reraised preflop. As played, I don't think there is a place to find a fold. So, I guess the post-flop play looks OK if villain is very aggressive with draws and 1-pair hands on scary boards.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:56 PM
Borned_Luckbox1 Borned_Luckbox1 is offline
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Default Re: That\'s some flop!

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Fold preflop.


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I loled
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: That\'s some flop!

Looks like you played it well.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: That\'s some flop!

STANDARD

Why is this a thread?
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:38 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: That\'s some flop!

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Fold preflop.


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I loled

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Why call heads up OOP instead of fold or reraise? You are out of position post flop. You will miss the flop 2/3s of the time. Is the plan to donk bet any flop with K-high as a stop-n-go?

It would seem reraise or fold preflop would be better than call. And since the raiser only has a 15% PFR, my guess is that KQo isn't a big favorite over his range. I'd have to look at PokerStove to see how KQo fairs against the top 15% of preflop hands, but it's probably close to 50-50. So, folding isn't so bad. And if you want to play, then it would be better to sieze the initiative with a reraise than call and play the rest of the hand without initiative and without position.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: That\'s some flop!

Its a [censored] minraise dude.
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