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Old 05-08-2007, 04:59 PM
AbreuTime AbreuTime is offline
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Default Re: Top two get minraised twice!?!

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However you lead the turn, get min raised and just decide to call. Here's where you are screwed. 3 bet him on this turn. Why would some one RE-raise preflop, check a flopped Ace in position, yet min raise the turn? If he's an idiot bluffing then you aren't going to get any more value out of him on the river unless he hit's his 2 outer. So you might as well 3 bet him here and then you don't have to worry about that.

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I disagree with this. If he is bluffing, you do not want to 3bet the turn and blow him away. If he has a set, you do not want to 3bet the turn and then fold to a 4bet. That is costly information. Based on the weird way he played the hand: with a small 3bet pf, check behind on flop, and minraise on turn, I am not 3betting this turn ever. Total spew.

River seems like a c/c to me, although I may c/f occassionally. This could be AK sometimes, as well as a flopped set. Most hands (that you beat) that call your river donkbet will bet it themselves, and all hands that beat you will raise. No one will bluff raise here. Seems like an easy check.
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Old 05-08-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Top two get minraised twice!?!

turn miniraise is like AA only.
mix in some AK and JJ and you ar still behind.

either fold turn or c/f river, against the turn raise your hand is basically a bluff cather and no one bluff-miniraises like this.
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Old 05-08-2007, 05:34 PM
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I might c/c the river but I am not folding.

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What worse hand is villain betting on the river given the action thus far?
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Old 05-08-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Top two get minraised twice!?!

id fold pf and c/c the river as played. based on his aggression factor pattern I think this can be an overplayed AQ/AK a good amount of the time. I think without a good read your hand has enough merit to see a showdown (in hand strength and based on action so far) but a c/c is the best way to accomplish that when unsure of your hand strength here.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Top two get minraised twice!?!

thanks for the replies. The reason I called pf was that both villians were 200bb deep and not that good, as far as i know.

I called, he showed JJ!
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