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AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
Villain is a good tricky player. My stats on him were 29/20/2.5 with a good number of hands.
FT 1/2 SH *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Hero [Th As] on the button UTG folds HJ folds Villain raises to $2 Hero raises to $3 SB folds BB folds Villain calls $1 *** FLOP *** [Qs 6d 2s] Villian bets $1 Hero...? Whats my line from this point on? With this donk bet, I do not believe he has a Q but might have a low pair or flush draw. |
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Re: AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
*grunch*
Villain is probably on a FD. Any player has to expect a c-bet here, and I'm assuming a good player would check-raise with TP, especially with an AF this high. I think he's being tricky again. Call and re-evaluate turn. |
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Re: AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
Against a good player, I'd usually fold AT preflop.
On the flop I'd call because of the Nut BDFD thats there. |
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Re: AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
I'd raise and take a free card on anything except a T or A which I'd value bet/fold on the turn and river. (I'd call a 3-bet and fold turn ui, and I might just call down his turn c/r on a T or A if I feel like it. If I take a free card and he bets I'm probably folding, but occasionally calling the occasional turn 3 river Q action or such if I'm untrusting.)
Preflop 3-bet is fine and standard btw. |
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Re: AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
I'd fold preflop against a good player. Following HPFAP advice and disregarding the top card on the flop I think you have a call getting 8.5-1. I hate these spots though and try avoiding them as much as possible, that's one of the reasons for folding preflop.
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Re: AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
is this an auto 3bet from everyone vs a 30/20 CO raiser otb?
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Re: AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
Yes.
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Re: AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
what exactly is ur 3betting range here? I dont get to use stats often or see too too many 30/20s, i think i end up adjusting my 3betting standards alrite but who knows.
are u 3betting 66+ or 77, QJs KTo? what suited aces what offsuit aces? Does it matter how "good" or tricky of a 30/20 it is? how about if the raise comes from UTG? |
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Re: AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
66 yeah. Mainly hands with showdown value. So I don't do stuff like QJs (some do) or KTo. KQo I will, KJs I will, but I think those are the worst ones. A9o, A7s or A8s, all good.
Mainly don't sit there. |
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Re: AT 3-bet gets donked on blank flop
What does everyone think about calling the flop and then raising the turn, to check behind on the river UI?
I think this would give us the potential for the CO to fold a better hand, but also leaves us open to a 3-bet on the turn. If he is playing a flush draw and hits it on the turn, I would still have a redraw to the nut flush. I think the only cards this would be a bad play on would be a non spade K. |
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