6.50 - Feeling awkward with 88

[DannyOcean_]

Full Tilt Poker Game #4067760998: $6 + $0.50 Madness (Turbo) (30914415), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:08:14 ET - 2007/11/04

Seat 2: MrDannyOcean (1,230)
Seat 3: nala314 (1,245)
Seat 4: rowem (880)
Seat 5: JRPutz (1,875)
Seat 6: Geller-Green (2,430)
Seat 7: ALL IN 1020 (2,110)
Seat 8: kiddhex (1,950)
Seat 9: stray8aces (1,780)

JRPutz posts the small blind of 50
Geller-Green posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrDannyOcean [8c 8h]
ALL IN 1020 folds
kiddhex folds
stray8aces folds
<font color="red">MrDannyOcean raises to 250</font>
nala314 folds
rowem folds
JRPutz folds
<font color="red"> Geller-Green raises to 2,430, and is all in</font>
MrDannyOcean ????


Lower pocket pairs i open fold here, higher ones i push. How do you play mid-pairs like this, and what do you do after the push with no strong read?

[Takeover_inc]

I think with your stack size you should open fold if you are not willing to call if you get shoved on. If you are going to 2.5bbs pre then i would feel obligated to call a shove.

(this is just my thinking, and i am learning, so it could be way off)

[vers]

I don't really like open raising this utg and I think you're too deep/blinds too low and opponents call ranges are too wide to make this a +ev shove. Fold. As played in a 6.5 I probably call b/c my stack kinda sucks and we could be ahead I guess.

[sixfour]

It's a crappy spot and I think I'd have to lay it down. We've still got 10BB's and a bit of time to play with rather than taking a flip here.

When I'm not feeling well and want to donk around with fps moves, this is exactly the sort of hand and stack size I like to limp-jam with.

[sippin_criss]

I open shove this.

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Feeling awkward with 88

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like when u used to climb the rope in gym class

[DannyOcean_]

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Feeling awkward with 88

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like when u used to climb the rope in gym class

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YOU PROMISED YOU WOULDN'T TELL

*sobs*

[TruFloridaGator]

Open shoving &amp; raise/call are both fine. Don't open fold at all but don't fold if you raise minus a ninja read.
I would call vs someone named Geller-Green. You can find like 55+,AJ+ vs some.

[ADLinden]

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I open shove this.

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[Insty]

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Lower pocket pairs i open fold here, higher ones i push. How do you play mid-pairs like this, and what do you do after the push with no strong read?

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With no read you fold 88 to start with and don't get yourself into these tricky spots.
I call here though. You are going to be flipping most of the time and being left with &lt; 1000 chips is no fun at all.