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Old 11-22-2007, 07:13 PM
ChipsAhoya ChipsAhoya is offline
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Default Re: Razz - semi-ok hand 3-way - linecheck

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Seriously, the way you Razz sharks play rivers makes no sense to me. So basically you don't think this has any value, because he doesn't call with a worse hand. That means I should definitely bet the river here with a J, K, Q or pair because he folds better hands without thinking ???

I *believe* that rivers are played extremely passive by most Razz players. So I basically think most people suck at river play, even you guys who are loads better than me. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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Regardless of how the hand was played, this statement is 100% accurate.

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Old 11-22-2007, 10:14 PM
Raxxmataxx Raxxmataxx is offline
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Default Re: Razz - semi-ok hand 3-way - linecheck

It seems you have something like 50%-53% on the river, prior to any actions. But for you to have that good equity on the bet means that he'll never raise you off with a worse hand and pay off with a ton of really bad hands.

So I don't think you actually have a pure valuebet here, but it may still be better than checking if he is passive and mostly aren't going to bluff when you check while still valuebetting lower hands. Ie, you lose a little less on the bet by betfolding than by checkcalling. If he is passive allround and won't value bet hands like 8:s there's much less clear value in the bet.

I don't think a bet is clearly bad. Especially as his really good 4-card hands on 6th are very unlikely.

I am pretty sure that this is checkcall if we assume perfect play on the river only for both of you. Especially since your paired ace makes this hand not all that good among your possible hands. Assuming you're not crazy on 3d and bet every hand on 5th, T7 is in your bottom 15%, on the river.
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