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Old 07-06-2007, 11:53 PM
Knighthawk Knighthawk is offline
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Default Re: Cake Poker Slanders Me, Threatens Me, and Takes Initial Deposit

"Your account at Cake Poker is closed for one reason and one reason only; you stated that you would charge back. Even to imply that you are going to charge back is still an act of premeditated fraud. This matter is closed in the eyes of Cake Poker and any further belligerent emails received will result in Cake Poker not only adding your details to the negative data base but also to the black list gazettes and forwarding your entire correspondence to your bank to let them view how you handled this matter like a cranky teenager."

Wow, Reef, the whole paragraph unedited paints an entirely different picture than was originally posted. This email implies that your account is closed, it's done with, and if you try to email them shouting and screaming they will go onto the next step of reporting you.

The way I read the above, nothing will be reported if you just go away quietly, and it is their right to service who they choose. But, since apparently you like to SHOUT ABOUT HOW UNFRAIR IT ALL IS AND HOW THE SITE IS UNJUSTLY TREATING YOU, they are saying shut up, or they are willing to go to the next step.

In the OP it highly implied you were going to be reported and blacklisted, in the full quote it's not at all apparent that that's the case, so at the very least you are being very disengenious in the orginal post, if anything you are the one doing the slandering.
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:26 AM
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"Your account at Cake Poker is closed for one reason and one reason only; you stated that you would charge back. Even to imply that you are going to charge back is still an act of premeditated fraud. This matter is closed in the eyes of Cake Poker and any further belligerent emails received will result in Cake Poker not only adding your details to the negative data base but also to the black list gazettes and forwarding your entire correspondence to your bank to let them view how you handled this matter like a cranky teenager."

Wow, Reef, the whole paragraph unedited paints an entirely different picture than was originally posted. This email implies that your account is closed, it's done with, and if you try to email them shouting and screaming they will go onto the next step of reporting you.

The way I read the above, nothing will be reported if you just go away quietly, and it is their right to service who they choose. But, since apparently you like to SHOUT ABOUT HOW UNFRAIR IT ALL IS AND HOW THE SITE IS UNJUSTLY TREATING YOU, they are saying shut up, or they are willing to go to the next step.

In the OP it highly implied you were going to be reported and blacklisted, in the full quote it's not at all apparent that that's the case, so at the very least you are being very disengenious in the orginal post, if anything you are the one doing the slandering.

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how are people still defending cake in this situation? jesus christ.
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:04 AM
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"Your account at Cake Poker is closed for one reason and one reason only; you stated that you would charge back. Even to imply that you are going to charge back is still an act of premeditated fraud. This matter is closed in the eyes of Cake Poker and any further belligerent emails received will result in Cake Poker not only adding your details to the negative data base but also to the black list gazettes and forwarding your entire correspondence to your bank to let them view how you handled this matter like a cranky teenager."

Wow, Reef, the whole paragraph unedited paints an entirely different picture than was originally posted. This email implies that your account is closed, it's done with, and if you try to email them shouting and screaming they will go onto the next step of reporting you.

The way I read the above, nothing will be reported if you just go away quietly, and it is their right to service who they choose. But, since apparently you like to SHOUT ABOUT HOW UNFRAIR IT ALL IS AND HOW THE SITE IS UNJUSTLY TREATING YOU, they are saying shut up, or they are willing to go to the next step.

In the OP it highly implied you were going to be reported and blacklisted, in the full quote it's not at all apparent that that's the case, so at the very least you are being very disengenious in the orginal post, if anything you are the one doing the slandering.

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how are people still defending cake in this situation? jesus christ.

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I have no idea lol...
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:02 AM
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how are people still defending cake in this situation? jesus christ.

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While I wouldn't defend Cake at this stage - I wouldn't jump all over them either. We had people saying "I am never going to deposit there!" after the very first post, which(no offense to Reef), was a very one-sided story, backed up by only some small fragments of the actual correspondence.

From the looks of things Cake didn't handle things correctly, but most sensible people would reserve judgment till we see (1) the full correspondence, and/or (2) Cakes side of the story.
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:46 PM
EvanJC EvanJC is offline
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how are people still defending cake in this situation? jesus christ.

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While I wouldn't defend Cake at this stage - I wouldn't jump all over them either. We had people saying "I am never going to deposit there!" after the very first post, which(no offense to Reef), was a very one-sided story, backed up by only some small fragments of the actual correspondence.

From the looks of things Cake didn't handle things correctly, but most sensible people would reserve judgment till we see (1) the full correspondence, and/or (2) Cakes side of the story.

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that's the thing though. reef could have threatened to shoot the cs guys mom and do a million charge backs. cake still handled the situation poorly.
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:02 PM
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how are people still defending cake in this situation? jesus christ.

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While I wouldn't defend Cake at this stage - I wouldn't jump all over them either. We had people saying "I am never going to deposit there!" after the very first post, which(no offense to Reef), was a very one-sided story, backed up by only some small fragments of the actual correspondence.

From the looks of things Cake didn't handle things correctly, but most sensible people would reserve judgment till we see (1) the full correspondence, and/or (2) Cakes side of the story.

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that's the thing though. reef could have threatened to shoot the cs guys mom and do a million charge backs. cake still handled the situation poorly.

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With the exception of the CS rep's tact, I don't see anthing wrong with what Cake did. Reef through a tantrum and they told hime they didn't want his business, AND refunded his money. Warning others in the industry of his tactics and threats, by placing him on the lists mentioned, is he right thing to do. To imply this is somehow violating his rights is comical at best. Your actions and behavior will always come around to bite you in the ass, whether you are a 'high volume respected player' or not.
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:44 PM
Mike Haven Mike Haven is offline
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From Reef's posts to date, we can see only a few parts of a number of Cake's e-mails, but we haven't seen Reef's e-mails that caused these (admittedly rather unusal) responses. Perhaps when we see the full wording of all correspondence, more will be revealed?

To be honest, to a certain degree I quite like the fact that there are obviously normal human beings in the Cake office, and they read and understand the e-mails they receive. It makes a welcome change, to my mind.

Reef:

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WHY DOES MY CAKE ACCOUNT NOT HAVE MONEY BUT MY BANK ACCOUNT WAS CHARGED? AS OF NOW THIS IS A FRAUDULENT CHARGE AND I WILL DISPUTE IT.


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ok I will not reverse the charge, but I will advertise to everyone on internet forums about this situation


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now I can add, "Cake Poker locked my account after I disagreed with how they handled the situation" ... error 212 my @##

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Cake:

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Thank you for your email. Your purchased has already been reversed by our Cashier team. What exactly are you going to advertise to Internet forums? That there was a problem with your purchase and when you contacted us we rectified it immediately?

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Maybe it’s time that you grew up and stopped acting like a spoiled child.

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you should also add that your account was closed because you threatened to charge back a legitimate purchase when Cake Poker handled the situation in a swift and amicable way. The only person that is at fault in this whole situation is you


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It doesn’t require childish foot stomping and threats of charge backs

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Your account at Cake Poker is closed for one reason and one reason only; you stated that you would charge back. Even to imply that you are going to charge back is still an act of premeditated fraud. This matter is closed in the eyes of Cake Poker and any further belligerent emails received will result in Cake Poker not only adding your details to the negative data base but also to the black list gazettes and forwarding your entire correspondence to your bank to let them view how you handled this matter like a cranky teenager

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Old 07-07-2007, 05:59 PM
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Reef is banned by self-request for 22 days so you might as well lock this thread
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:17 PM
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Reef is banned by self-request for 22 days so you might as well lock this thread

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???

weird.
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:18 AM
RikaKazak RikaKazak is offline
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Default Re: Cake Poker Slanders Me, Threatens Me, and Takes Initial Deposit

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"Your account at Cake Poker is closed for one reason and one reason only; you stated that you would charge back. Even to imply that you are going to charge back is still an act of premeditated fraud. This matter is closed in the eyes of Cake Poker and any further belligerent emails received will result in Cake Poker not only adding your details to the negative data base but also to the black list gazettes and forwarding your entire correspondence to your bank to let them view how you handled this matter like a cranky teenager."

Wow, Reef, the whole paragraph unedited paints an entirely different picture than was originally posted. This email implies that your account is closed, it's done with, and if you try to email them shouting and screaming they will go onto the next step of reporting you.

The way I read the above, nothing will be reported if you just go away quietly, and it is their right to service who they choose. But, since apparently you like to SHOUT ABOUT HOW UNFRAIR IT ALL IS AND HOW THE SITE IS UNJUSTLY TREATING YOU, they are saying shut up, or they are willing to go to the next step.

In the OP it highly implied you were going to be reported and blacklisted, in the full quote it's not at all apparent that that's the case, so at the very least you are being very disengenious in the orginal post, if anything you are the one doing the slandering.

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do you own stock in cake or work for them?
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