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Old 06-18-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default NL25 - OESFD on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

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Was this played correctly?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $10.30
BB: $24.25
Hero (UTG): $25.40
UTG+1: $23.75
MP1: $24.75
MP2: $17.15
CO: $29.00
BTN: $12.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
Hero calls $0.25, 5 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($0.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $10.05</font>, Hero calls $8.05
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - OESFD gets c/r\'d on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

uh, you can't ask for anything better! nh! you should get this in with 200 bb stacks as well. you are only down to a larger FD, and you have huge outs against sets/2p
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - OESFD on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

Looks good, and if he hadn't shoved just keep making pot sized raises untill you're all in on that flop
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - OESFD on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

Fold preflop, as played, AAAAAAARRRGGGHHH IIIIINNNNN!!!!!
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - OESFD on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

NH. Gold star.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - OESFD on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

lol This thread just leveled the [censored] out of me.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - OESFD on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

The villain did exactly what you wanted. Hope you won!
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - OESFD gets c/r\'d on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

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uh, you can't ask for anything better! nh! you should get this in with 200 bb stacks as well. you are only down to a larger FD, and you have huge outs against sets/2p

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Man, I'm just not in agreement with this at all. Perhaps I need help here, but we're not in that great of shape here.

Against a set, our equity is in the low 40s.

Against 2 pair, our equity is in the low 50s. If his 2 pair includes the Jd, we're actually a slight dog.

Against something like AJ, we're in teh mid 50s again; however, I think it's less likely that someone gets all in with a tp hand, then a bigger hand. If his hand is a tp hand with a larger diamond, like AdJ, we're actually just a hair of a favorite as well.

It's always hard to do these, but even with a range like this (I'm sure adjustments could be made, but my point remains), I think this could be razor thin and just lend itself to more variance.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

72,270 games 0.015 secs 4,818,000 games/sec

Board: 5d 6d Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.239% 50.24% 00.00% 36308 0.00 { 8d7d }
Hand 1: 49.761% 49.76% 00.00% 35962 0.00 { JJ, 66-55, AJs, KJs, QJs, J6s-J5s, 65s, AdJs, KJo, QJo, JTo, J6o-J5o, 65o }

If we could get all in first and get some FE, perhaps this makes more sense to me...idk.

Thoughts?
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - OESFD gets c/r\'d on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

He has to put $8.05 on a $13.30 pot and get 2 cards. How can this be wrong?
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - OESFD gets c/r\'d on flop, just get the money in ASAP?

I'm not sure if you can treat NL this way or not; however, the way I'm used to looking at it is this way. The way this hand went down against anyone with half a brain, I'm saying we probably half about 45% equity in a $13.30 pot, which is about $6 worth...we're putting in over $8 for this.

Help me if I'm misapplying limit concepts to this game please.
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