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Old 11-27-2007, 04:18 AM
sladeAK sladeAK is offline
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Default Flopping Full House question


In a potlimit game with 55xx I flopped 7d7h5d in a 3 way raised pot. First to act, I decided to bet the pot.

My thinking was that someone with a 7 would pay me off and draws might still call. Both players folded but should I have slowplayed more.

How would you play this hand?

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Old 11-27-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Flopping Full House question

Bet/fold.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:19 AM
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bet, evaluate if raised.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: Flopping Full House question

Stack sizes have a lot to do with it too right?
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: Flopping Full House question

Bet. With a small stack I'm basically committed after flopping that. With a big stack I rather bet and find out cheaply now if I am beat because c/c or c/r can get real expensive here while drawing dead or are barely ahead.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:10 PM
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Bet/fold.

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Really? We're a 57% favorite against trips. Are we that worried about quads or the overfull? Besides, I think quads/overfull slowplay this flop 100% of the time.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:11 PM
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~100bb deep b/3b all-in is perfectly fine.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:40 PM
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call me a nit, but i hate underfulls. terrible reverse implied odds - you will be flipping even if youŽre ahead at this point , but you may be dead as well. i guess iŽd bet the flop and slow down if i get called as just about every card in the deck will hurt me. bet/fold is pretty standard on this flop.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:45 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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you will be flipping even if youŽre ahead at this point


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pokenum -o 5s 5d js th - 7c 9d qs kh -- 7s 7d 5h
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 7s 7d 5h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 5s 5d Th 474 57.80 346 42.20 0 0.00 0.578
Qs 7c 9d Kh 346 42.20 474 57.80 0 0.00 0.422

58:42 is not exactly flipping, and this is the worst case scenario (when you are ahead) with 9 live outs. often he has a pair in his hand and/or you are blocking some of the outs. and sometimes players get frisky with overpairs, flush draws and wraps etc. even at paired boards.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:27 PM
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COUNTERPOINT:
pokenum -o 5s 5d js th - 5c 6d 7h 8s -- 7s 7d 5h
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 7s 7d 5h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 5s 5d Th 6 0.73 814 99.27 0 0.00 0.007
8s 5c 6d 7h 814 99.27 6 0.73 0 0.00 0.993

If you are behind, you are behind a lot.
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