how to beat people who min raise aa pf?

jerryf1914 · #1 11-26-2007, 09:53 PM

i've been getting destroyed by the standard donk who likes to min raise aa and not 4 bet. how should i play these situations?

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Hero ($9.99)
MP ($10)
Button ($8.74)
SB ($16.97)
BB ($7.28)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.2, SB calls $1.

Flop: ($2.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.5, SB calls $2.50.

Turn: ($7.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.29 (All-In), SB calls $6.29.

River: ($0) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $20.08

Results in white below: 
SB has Ad As (two pair, aces and threes).
Hero has Ac Kh (two pair, kings and threes).
Outcome: SB wins $20.08. 

villian went all in here on the turn not sure why the hh is screwed up

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Button ($3.40)
Hero ($9.90)
BB ($20.27)
UTG ($2.43)
MP ($1.35)
CO ($9.67)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.2, 1 fold, MP folds, CO calls $1.

Flop: ($2.60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO bets $2, Hero calls $0.

Turn: ($6.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($6.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $6.60

Results in white below: 
Hero has Jc Js (two pair, jacks and twos).
CO has Ac Ad (two pair, aces and twos).
Outcome: CO wins $6.60.

Jailblazers · #2 11-26-2007, 10:00 PM

If he minraises with alot of his hands (including AA), then you played these hands well.

However...

If he minraises with ONLY AA, then just play hands to flop big and stack him then.

If you just came into these hands with a small sample (ie. not enough hands to judge if he only minraises with AA), you played these hands fine.

jerryf1914 · #3 11-26-2007, 10:14 PM

is there really any way to tell if someone ONLY min raises with big pairs? i suppose if someone was running 50/2 i could guess they only min raise
big pairs but how about someone who runs like 34/13?
[ QUOTE ]
If he minraises with alot of his hands (including AA), then you played these hands well.

However...

If he minraises with ONLY AA, then just play hands to flop big and stack him then.

If you just came into these hands with a small sample (ie. not enough hands to judge if he only minraises with AA), you played these hands fine.

[/ QUOTE ]

Waingro · #4 11-26-2007, 10:17 PM

It kinda helps to know how aggressive he is pre. Also, the second hand I cb the flop and that is basically the only money I put into the pot. The first looks standard enough.

Clover78 · #5 11-26-2007, 10:21 PM

My money would have been in there also on both without a read that he only minraises AA-KK.

Play looks fine to me.

Micro Donk · #6 11-26-2007, 10:23 PM

you raised AKo and JJ? you must be opening up your game...wasnt u like 35/3?

bored · #7 11-26-2007, 10:27 PM

Call his minraises with a wide range and push hard when you flop a hand that beats 1 pair.

The hands you posted are coolers; just take a note on villain.