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Old 11-24-2007, 01:46 AM
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ur post is confusing... are you saying you shouldnt be raising the river with Tx? cause I think thats what you're saying.

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Correct. Unless there is leveling going on. Cause if you are both playing ABC, what worse hand is calling? What better hand is folding?

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oh my jesus

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this post just blew my mind

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Nice contribution. The high level of thought and logical explanations on this forum continue to impress me.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:47 AM
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The fact that you do stuff like this a lot is good. This particular spot I don't really like though. You probably bet an overpair on this flop (and/or raise the turn). Anything stronger than one pair, the same. You're just not representing much here except maybe 9T or something. Your standard TAG will probably autofold one pair to a river raise anyway, but if villain is thinking I think you get looked up by any pair and some ace highs.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:49 AM
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no, because he is prob vb a K.

but not necessarily better jlocdog. I hope you understand why [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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what?
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: gettin silly again

more likely to bet a K then an 8, hence more likely to have a T on 853TT
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: gettin silly again

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ur post is confusing... are you saying you shouldnt be raising the river with Tx? cause I think thats what you're saying.

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Correct. Unless there is leveling going on. Cause if you are both playing ABC, what worse hand is calling? What better hand is folding?

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oh my jesus

[x] ignore

this post just blew my mind

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Nice contribution. The high level of thought and logical explanations on this forum continue to impress me.

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I'm not trying to start a flame war with anyone, but I usually call people out when they make ridiculous statements. I don't think anyone in the universe folds any ten if you raise the river, and frequently say [censored] it and call with a pair.

Citing me out in terms of content in posts is pretty ridiculous as well, but I'll let all the rational people elaborate.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:54 AM
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gotta c-bet that.

pf is fine.

villain is repping a 10. what are u repping?
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:58 AM
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US,

"no, because he is prob vb a K.

but not necessarily better jlocdog. I hope you understand why"

Actually Nazahl was right there. It is far more likely that you would check behind with a hand like Kx as to mix up your play since you fear less cards. If you hit the 853 flop you would almost always bet it. The difference in flops is that you can now represent more then just set/air.

As far as it being better...it is directly because of this point.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:02 AM
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completely disagree, checking KQ is pretty bad there, as is raising KJ on the river. you can rep a T better on the 853 (well a little bit better anyway) as you are more likely to cbet the K high

it sucks on either board though
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:11 AM
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I frequently check behind with TP when it is a high one or my kicker is above my pair, ie. KQ on a K53 board or AJ on a J82 board. I think mixing this into my play has been very good for my game. It allows me to not get exploited when I don't think a c-bet is optimal nor do I want to c/r because i may either want to attempt to play a small pot OR a big one and a c/r may just end the hand too early. Also, I don't agree OP can rep a T here with any credence. Unless his image is one of being extremely weak tight. Doesn't seem that way.

I am going to say that this bluff was successful and villain had diamonds or some crap like 67.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:19 AM
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more likely to have T on the 8 high board, but still unlikely

as a default play checking back KQ on a K53 board is bad. You're losing value, simple as that. I could see a checking being good sometimes, but usually a bet will be better.
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