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Old 11-23-2007, 06:25 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Set on 4 straight board

Main villain runs at 24/16/3.5. I didnt really see a need to raise this flop as I cant put villain on many sixes or sevens so I didnt think there was much to protect against.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($44.70)
UTG ($39.45)
MP ($71.95)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($61.20)</font>
<font color="#C00000">SB ($62.75)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, SB calls $2, BB calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75.

Flop: ($9) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5, SB calls $5, BB folds.

Turn: ($24) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $15.5</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $15.50.

River: ($55) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $40 (All-In)</font>, Hero....
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Set on 4 straight board

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I didnt really see a need to raise this flop as I cant put villain on many sixes or sevens so I didnt think there was much to protect against.


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What about 66/77? I definitely raise this flop, especially since SB and BB both have to act after you flat call UTG's raise.

The way he c/c the flop, then led the turn makes me think he has an overpair, like 99. I probably raise the turn too. river is meh, but I probably call since he seems pretty aggressive. He could have 44, also.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Set on 4 straight board

Yea 66/77 are in his range but thats really the only hands that I figured could contain either a 6 or a 7. Either that or he had me beat already anyway. I felt like calling the river is almost mandatory in that not much changed from the turn. I dont think a bdfd is a big part of his range at all so its either he has a straight or he doesnt.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Set on 4 straight board

my noob logic thinks that SB flopped big with 67/88 and thought he'd slowplay flop-then when the 7 comes on the turn he thinks utg is going to slowdown so leads himself.

i can't see him leading turn as a bluff into 2 ppl, unless he has picked up a fd so either way i would fold river.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:45 PM
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I think this is a fold. I mean with this kind of hand isnt his range polarized to nuts or a hand that we beat. I raise the flop here by the way, as played I fold.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:47 PM
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The way I saw it about not raising flop is that 1. I have position for the rest of the hand so that would make my decisions slightly easier and 2. There are 8 cards I dont really wanna see and the rest of the deck is whatever. 3. If I flat here and it blanks on the turn I can milk this more than if I just raise it up now.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: Set on 4 straight board

I think you go about this the wrong way. Sure there are not that many scarecards for you on the turn, but what about villain? If he has a crappy one pair hand like A8, 99 etc etc half the deck is scardcards. Also, this is 4way, some of the other players are encouraged to come along with a pair + gutshot and getting decent odds. I think your best bet to get value out of various one pair hands is to raise the flop.
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