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11-19-2007, 02:41 AM
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Re: Very deep rivered 2nd nuts 10/20
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HEK, you know everyone is going to say shove, so maybe you could include reasons for why you might not? [/ QUOTE ] I also figure everyone will come out and say lolol shove wtf zomg!!! I think there are very good arguments for shoving and calling that are interesting to discuss. 
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11-19-2007, 02:48 AM
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Re: Very deep rivered 2nd nuts 10/20
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I think there are very good arguments for shoving and calling that are interesting to discuss. [/ QUOTE ] really? what do you think he's doing w/222 or 444? bet/calling when the only set you can have given your turn check is TTT? no he's 3-betting. then once you 4bet he goes "i can't believe he has TTT this is so sick" and calls. i really don't think that a lower set ever finds a fold here. this would be true of most not very good players, but then you note that he's bad and loose and you have a very aggro image. then to top it off, he stacks off light for 100 BBs! there's no reason to think he isn't equally bad for more BBs, just nobody's gotten the second nuts versus him 250 BB deep yet so you haven't had a chance to see what he'll stack off with deep but his 100 BB behavior has got to be at least somewhat indicative.
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#4
11-19-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: Very deep rivered 2nd nuts 10/20
Time down, push. Booth for metagam, its too tight calling here, and if he is bluffing you dont reveal your hand, and you max value vs lower sets/top2, he will never fold em, just putting you on Q10 and make crying call.
You said he was bad, and just calling is leaving to much money on the table.
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#6
11-21-2007, 03:19 PM
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Re: Very deep rivered 2nd nuts 10/20
shove. it sucks if he has qq, but you will be looked up by 44/77 often enough for shoving to be profitable. is there something about this situation that makes the decision close?
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#8
11-22-2007, 09:43 PM
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Re: Very deep rivered 2nd nuts 10/20
I shove TBH. Who can put BB on QQ with preflop and postflop action...
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