QQ in 3b pot checkup

[Jay Riall]

No way should we only be value betting trip aces as him on this river and no way I'm folding this river either.

[d2themfi]

idk 23/14's seem to not 3bet light hardly ever, esp to utg raises (yes it is 5 handed), and I think most would not bluff like this and not value bet less than QQ very often either. I think you will see quads here sometimes, KK way more often

[imozyslow]

i dont understand why a four bet pre is so mandatory here (sb v utg) and i would fold the river. HUZZAH!

[d2themfi]

4betting preflop here doesnt seem good at all

[FreakDaddy]

Make a small turn raise. Either he has trip aces, or he's running scared. You can easily rep the A as played, and I don't think your hand has any showdown value if he bets the river.

As played, even though I'd hate folding to this bet, I don't think he's value betting JJ or worse here, and it's not a bluff hardly ever. It smells like KK a lot.

[d2themfi]

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Make a small turn raise. Either he has trip aces, or he's running scared. You can easily rep the A as played, and I don't think your hand has any showdown value if he bets the river.


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I strongly disagree

[FreakDaddy]

Good, but try putting a reason next time, otherwise your post isn't very helpful.

[d2themfi]

i thought that any1 with knowledge of basic poker theory would know why, but here it goes- Any raise folds out all worse hands and better hands continue, plus by just calling we are very unconcerned with giving a "free" card because of the proximity of our PP to the top card on the board

[gman06]

For sure call, although you do see KK/AX where x=2-J a lot.

[tweed_blazer]

The calling station trapped within the depths of my soul is screaming SNAPCALL but the more I think about it, the less it makes sense for a hand like KK to negate any bluff catching possibility by leading out on the river. His flop check makes me lean towards folding.