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Old 10-08-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

3b pf
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

looking back on the hand, it does seem like a 3bet/call. For some reason i thought he was earlier than cutoff.
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

What the hell? Why do people think preflop is a 3bet/call shove? Do you really think you're putting in 36 bb's preflop good against Carl here? Maybe against Randal because he owns your soul but not Carl.

I call here with 100% of the hands I'm playing here. You're quite deep and it makes playing more hands profitable when your range is so wide.

That said, check/fold the flop.
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

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What the hell? Why do people think preflop is a 3bet/call shove? Do you really think you're putting in 36 bb's preflop good against Carl here? Maybe against Randal because he owns your soul but not Carl.

I call here with 100% of the hands I'm playing here. You're quite deep and it makes playing more hands profitable when your range is so wide.

That said, check/fold the flop.

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Reraising is a semibluff, so it doesn't matter if you are usually ahead when you get allin.

As played, I think you could checkraise representing a pp as well as fold on the flop.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

This hand is played pretty weirdly. Calling preflop is fine and is the standard here since you're in a [censored] spot if he 4-bets (have a plan!) On the flop just check/fold! WTF is with the FPS?

As played the turn is an excellent card to lead at. Why else are you floating OOP with a hand like this?
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

i dunno i thought he might give up on turn
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

I've never played with Colson. What is his 4betting range in this spot? I would flat call w/AJ, but 3bet/call w/AQ.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

your M = 36984/2400 = ~15.5

his M (after he bets) = (45139-2600)/2400 = ~17.75

pot = 5000 = ~2 Ms

3-bet = 3-4 Ms

if he 4-bet min-raises and you call that's 6-8 Ms, leaving you 9.5-11.5 Ms

stop-and-go is better : call and bet flop no matter what
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

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your M = 36984/2400 = ~15.5

his M (after he bets) = (45139-2600)/2400 = ~17.75

pot = 5000 = ~2 Ms

3-bet = 3-4 Ms

if he 4-bet min-raises and you call that's 6-8 Ms, leaving you 9.5-11.5 Ms

better to call and bet flop no matter what

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My ñ was 23 so that's clearly false.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: $200R AJ vs Colson

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your M = 36984/2400 = ~15.5

his M (after he bets) = (45139-2600)/2400 = ~17.75

pot = 5000 = ~2 Ms

3-bet = 3-4 Ms

if he 4-bet min-raises and you call that's 6-8 Ms, leaving you 9.5-11.5 Ms

stop-and-go is better : call and bet flop no matter what

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What is his 4betting range? And would he min raise?
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