6max hand v. Bakes

DDBeast · #1 09-27-2007, 12:55 AM

Range for Bakes?
Calling range for me?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t19660)
Hero (t16062)
CO (t8264)
Button (t7358)
SB (t8582)
BB (t18512)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with a couple of cards
UTG folds, Hero raises to t600, CO folds, Button calls t600, SB folds, BB raises to t2200, Hero calls t1600, Button folds

Flop: (t5300) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t5300) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t2700, BB raises to t16312 (All-in), Hero ...

KingDan · #2 09-27-2007, 12:58 AM

These posts rub me the wrong way when I don't see either player's whole cards, I've never been a fan of them.

auc hincloss · #3 09-27-2007, 08:56 AM

pretty dry board otf. i'd be expecting bakes to have a set here, but as KingDan says not really a fan of the no hole cards posting much.

WarDekar · #4 09-27-2007, 09:16 AM

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pretty dry board otf. i'd be expecting bakes to have a set here, but as KingDan says not really a fan of the no hole cards posting much.

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Is this the WCOOP 6-max? Does he know who you are? If not, what kind of reads might he have on you?

I think giving him a range of "sets" is really wrong, I love making this move on ppl.

auc hincloss · #5 09-27-2007, 09:43 AM

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Is this the WCOOP 6-max? Does he know who you are? If not, what kind of reads might he have on you?

I think giving him a range of "sets" is really wrong, I love making this move on ppl.

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care to then narrow down?

registrar · #6 09-27-2007, 09:53 AM

I watched Bakes for a while last night and he pulled this with overpairs and OESDs. I don't think he has a set. I don't think he thinks DD has a Q.

Bakes doesn't have complete air. That's as much as you can narrow the range, IMO, unless there is very specific history between the two.

DDBeast · #7 09-27-2007, 11:56 AM

Yes this is WCOOP. Yes, I think Bakes knows I'm 2+2. He has been aggressive. I don't remember at that point of the tournament, but I may have been aggressive as well. I had JJ, I'm pretty sure I can't call. I was just more curious as to what Bakes could hold.

WarDekar · #8 09-27-2007, 04:13 PM

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I watched Bakes for a while last night and he pulled this with overpairs and OESDs. I don't think he has a set. I don't think he thinks DD has a Q.

Bakes doesn't have complete air. That's as much as you can narrow the range, IMO, unless there is very specific history between the two.

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If Bakes doesn't think DD has a Q here then I think you have to call.

I actually lean towards calling if he thinks you're 2p2, and I'm not sure you should be leading JJ here if you don't plan on snap-calling a shove.

Of course it also matters how often you think he's checking behind a Q on the flop.

Bakes · #9 09-27-2007, 04:21 PM

ddbeast is in position wardekar. my limited read on him - 2+2, pretty tight.

registrar · #10 09-27-2007, 04:37 PM

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ddbeast is in position wardekar. my limited read on him - 2+2, pretty tight.

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I put DD on 88-JJ after the pf and flop action. However, I didn't know whether Bakes necessarily expected him to fold those hands, having basically declared that's what he has.

I think if hero's going to check behind on the flop and he bets the turn, he's really got to be prepared to call here but it's messy because, as I say, he's never going to be in terrible shape and is sometimes well ahead and feels that a shove is more +ev than a turn raise OOP.