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Old 09-23-2007, 11:26 AM
zyrrth zyrrth is offline
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Default 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $4.40
BB: $2.00
UTG: $11.20
UTG+1: $1.85
Hero (MP): $28.40
CO: $19.45
BTN: $10.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, CO calls $0.40, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $2.00</font>, Hero calls $1.60, CO calls $1.60

Flop: ($6.05) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, CO calls $3.00

Turn: ($12.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $6.00</font>, Hero


main villain is a retarded 40/7 station and i've won all my money from him
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

turn bet was too small but I had no clue what to do with the sidepot this deep
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

Flop bet too small. Make it like $5 or more. This will make the pot a little larger and turn and river decisions a little easier. This board is pretty dry and You are really only beaten by a flopped set or AA-KK, where AA-KK being unlikely given villains line. I dont think any of the two pair hands are likely even given that villain is loose. Agree? What does minraise from villain here mean? Any reads on this? OOP sucks. Tough spot for deep stack. I guess taht you are asking yourself whether committing you remaining stack here is profitable with an "stack to sidepot ratio" approaching 1-1. Less than that if you include the main pot. Would shoving here be spew cause if so Im spewin'.

Now that i look at the hand again, what were you thinking with turn bet? Looks like you are afraid of being against big stack here. Make a bigger turn bet and if he raises shove.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

i don't know lol
the sidepot just totally threw me off because it created such a huge pot on the flop
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

If you 4bet PF, it makes life a lot easier...
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

how much?
also what's my line if i make it 6 and he flatcalls?

i mean this guy called me down with almost everything
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

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I'd make it $8ish.

EDIT: $6 isn't enough. If he's calling you down super light, make it $9 and take him to valuetown. He has you beat PF like 1/1000 times.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

I think 4betting pf is sexy as well...I think $6 is pretty sexy given that you'll be OOP the rest of the hand. Given the retardedness of the station, I might shove PF. Being OOP vs a station sucks balls. lol
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

4bet pre-flop, bet more on flop, bet more on turn. Shove when he min-raises.

Just basically find a way too get all your money in asap.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: 10 nl qq 200 bb deep

I'm also 4-betting this PF. Villain has a tough time calling for implied odds and I think he would have raised w KK/AA.

Whats with the small bets on flop &amp; turn? I hate the turn because that bet looks so small that he can try to steal the pot away, and if he has some piece of the flop you give him cheap odds to hit two pair or what ever his random hand is drawing to.

"also what's my line if i make it 6 and he flatcalls?"

If you make it 6 the pot will be almost $15 on flop and you can bet 10 to get it almost all-in. But if he isn't completely retarded he might find the fold button pre-flop, which I guess is fine too.
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