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Old 08-23-2007, 11:39 AM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

Villian is 16/10 through 6500 hands filtered 7-10 handed.

Do I need to raise/go broke here to a shove? He is in the BB and his range can obviously be anything, I was thinking 89 at the time and decided to make it 420.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t4480
UTG+1: t2260
MP1: t1780
MP2: t1780
Hero: t1940
CO: t2580
Button: t1480
SB: t1760
BB: t1940

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t90)</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, 2 folds, SB calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t210)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t240, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t240, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t240, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t170</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t420</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in t1710</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in t1440</font>.

Results:
Final pot: t4000
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:00 PM
pokerman777 pokerman777 is offline
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Default Re: $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

of course , if you now that villian play pockets with a limp , you must fold here . I often fold small set vs regular who limp and then reraise me ...
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:08 PM
JoeSchmo JoeSchmo is offline
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Default Re: $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

Villain is BB, so he didn't limp in.

OP, over that many hands, do you have any other reads for the villain? I think you could fold against a good regular. But if he's just ok or worse, I think you have to grit your teeth and call since you'll see a straight or bare K enough and there's a ton in the pot. Readless, I'd probably stick with the call.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:11 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

thats a lot of hands vs this guy. is villian any good? i really can't imagine you being ahead of anything if villian is good so go ahead and make the tough laydown. if villian stinks then call.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

go broke.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:29 PM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default Re: $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

I like. He didn't show any strength the whole way. He easily could have a straight or trips. If he was good and had the boat I would think he would have bet the turn to start getting some value.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

I think ur beat on river, why call.

Though u see it all the time players going bananas with just a king. probably k6 k5
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:50 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

Flat it first time around, and fold to the 3bet.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

If he is good, he should have you beat. Then again, if he's good, why is he checking all the way to the river with a hand that beats you? If he's donkish enough to check a potential monster all the way to the river, he's donkish enough to show up here with a straight or trips. The pot's big enough and there are enough hands that you are ahead of. I'm calling in game, but I'm not real happy about it.
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:45 AM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: $215 rivering low FH vs tightish regular bb leading into small pot

The reason I called the river shove is because I found it easy to put him on 89. 16/10 is obviously not optimal stats early, but I would have tried to get some value on the turn if I had a king in his spot, and I guess thought he may have as well. In the 6500 hands with him I havent noted anything too wacky in the early levels, but I think my thoughts in game echoed 'FoldYourLife' here, I just wanted to see if it was a leak. I definitely thought of just flatting on the river but thought I could get value from 89 or all the non-FH kings
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