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Old 07-18-2007, 08:24 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Raise block against drooler?

Villain is a real drooler. 60/15/4 or so. He could easily have a missed draw here, or any pair or pocketpair he just couldn't get rid off. He will not fold a queen ever to a shove. Call/push/fold?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $271.00
BB: $215.00
UTG: $796.32
CO: $271.25
Hero (BTN): $201.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $4.00, SB calls $3.00, BB folds

Flop: ($14) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $33.00</font>, SB folds, UTG calls $25.00

Turn: ($80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $40.00</font>, UTG calls $40.00

River: ($160) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $50.00</font>, Hero?
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Raise block against drooler?

all you can do is basically minraise right? I mean you only have like 73 behind, so no I wouldn't raise the block bet.

Furthermore don't raise the flop, if you do check the turn.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Raise block against drooler?

A push will be hardly more than a minraise, so if he folds you were probably ahead anyway. I guess I would just fold since I can't see a call being profitable unless I had a good feeling about it.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: Raise block against drooler?

Should probably have checked turn, yes. I wanted to hit on the river and stack him though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Not raising flop seems weird to me. Villain basically has ATC after leading the flop here.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: Raise block against drooler?

Hell no to your question.

Flop is ok, but a raise to 28-30 accomplishes the same thing. Once you raise and he calls you have to take the free card because he's not folding his QJ or whatever.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Raise block against drooler?

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Furthermore don't raise the flop, if you do check the turn.

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Against some opponents you can obv raise this flop but against him...I dont' agree. And also...if he is a calling station like you say in your reads, why not try to stack him later when you actually hit your flush
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Raise block against drooler?

Villain is really aggrotarded, I would be shocked if he shows up QJ here. He wouldn't "slowplay" a monster like that on the flop or turn. Which is why I really should have checked the turn. He is prolly CR arr in with QJ and the like on the turn.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Raise block against drooler?

He's not folding anything that he bets here that you beat. You are better off calling than raising, but I'm not sure your read is good enough here to justify a call.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Raise block against drooler?

I'm raising the flop 100% here against a guy who is basically leading his whole range here. Why is that bad?
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: Raise block against drooler?

Looks like this wasn't close at all, guess I just wanted someone to tell me to push. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I folded.
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