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Old 06-27-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

Villain is 24/19.7/2 over 61 hands

I felt like I couldn't fold or raise anywhere. I thought that I was either way ahead or behind, and I thought I should have value bet the river. Is this weak sauce? Does anyone like my super call, call, check line?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $21.90
hero: $22.10
CO: $8.05
Button: $29.35
SB: $27.15
BB: $25.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $1.25</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $3</font>, UTG folds, hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $7.25</font>, hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($24.5, 2 players)
SB checks, hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $24.5
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

I don't mind it. I might have bet the river though.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

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I don't mind it. I might have bet the river though.

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This is what I can't figure out about the river. There are three scenario's.

1) Villain had a T and is going to raise me.
2) Villain had a weaker K and might call.
3) Villain has a FD and never calls.

The donk bet is what confused me. I put him on the T but checking the river was bizarre because I don't see him check raising the river. So the check points to either 2 or 3. I couldn't decide what to do on the river so I just checked since the pot was big.

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Old 06-27-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

please don't bet the river, you aren't getting called by anything you beat.

do we really think he is calling K9 K8 from the blinds?
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

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please don't bet the river, you aren't getting called by anything you beat.

do we really think he is calling K9 K8 from the blinds?

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I guess that is the heart of my question. His stats indicate no. (I think)

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Old 06-27-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

a T leads the flop like never. bet river and be shown down something you beat.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

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a T leads the flop like never. bet river and be shown down something you beat.

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So we can assume that the donk bet is usually a made hand but not the nuts?

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Old 06-27-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

very much so

i have gazillions of hands with donk bets in my DB and like 99% of them are smalll pps/second pairs/sometimes draws (especially on flops that are paired)
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

wait, what exactly is a "donk bet"?
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: Leak Check #3: KQ w/ TAG villain donk bets paired flop

you are preflop raiser and opponent leads a street
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