Hand vs Phil Gordon at New orleans 5k ME

[ZJ123]

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seems like an easy check...??

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the river??

nooo, ez value bet.

[THEOSU]

pretty easy bet, something callable. i think i bet something like 10-15k.

[cking]

also for the river as its obviously a blank. If you say check, why. Also if you say valuebet, how much and why?

[kurtkatt]

isnt the only hand that are gonna call us on river kq? and maybe not even that? that we beat i mean, think jt, qt might c/c us here also a fair %?

further, when we check turn we more or less announce that we cannot call a river c/r, no? so if we bet river, are we folding to a c/r?

[Crispy]

Nothing wrong with betting the river. If you really wanted to be cool you should underbet the river and call a push cause phil gordon is a clown.

[Eagles]

Turn is closeish but I check. If you bet you need to bet call and I'm not that comfortable with it. On the river very easy bet I make it like 15k.

[uclabruinz]

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Turn is closeish but I check. If you bet you need to bet call and I'm not that comfortable with it. On the river very easy bet I make it like 15k.

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[mastr]

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Nothing wrong with betting the river. If you really wanted to be cool you should underbet the river and call a push cause phil gordon is a clown.

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[BenJammin']

i think your flop bet should have been a little bigger, maybe 8-9K due the the coordinated board...you dont want to give him the odds to check/call you down with a strong draw.
on the turn, i dont understand why everyone thinkgs it's an easy check...explanations please?
i definitely value bet the river (pot is ~25K), somewhere around 14-16K. I dont think he's check/raising you here so its safe to say that he's either calling or folding. If he's calling, there's very few hands that have you beat that wouldnt warrant a c/r from him in the first place
i know you told me about this hand over the phone but remind me what happened again...i'm sure everyone else wants to know too.

[betgo]

I kind of like a bet/call on the turn. If villain has TPTK beat, it is hard not to lose a lot anyway. There are so many draws out that I wouldn't give a free card.