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Old 05-04-2007, 10:25 PM
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Default List of eWallets for Canadians (#2 of 2)

This is a continuation of the original thread, still available here.

This thread is constantly changing, as not every eWallet has been tried with every site - some of this information comes from poker room's websites, which are not always accurate. Keep this in mind when planning deposits, and please post back here if you have any corrections or new information.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: List of eWallets for Canadians (#2 of 2)

Moneybookers - AP (Withdrawal only on VP247), b2b, Betfair, Boss (some), Cake, Dobrosoft (Wingows), Everest, FT, iPoker (some), Ladbrokes, Mansion, Microgaming, OnGame, Pacific, Party, Poker4Ever, Stars, UB, WSEX
Click2Pay - AP, Boss (some), Crypto (Sun & IP only), Everest, FT, iPoker (some), Microgaming (some), OnGame (NOT Eurobet, Europoker), Poker.com, TruePoker, UB
ePassporte - AP, Bugsy's Club, Cake, Dobrosoft (Wingows), GamesGrid, FT, Poker4Ever, Stars, UB
Instadebit - AP, iPoker, Mansion, Pacific (deposit only?), TruePoker, UB, WSEX
EcoCard - Dobrosoft (FCP, Wingows), iPoker, Mansion, Microgaming (some), OnGame (Eurobet), Poker4Ever
ATMOnline - Dobrosoft (Poker World), UB
ewalletxpress - Bugsy's Club, Dobrosoft (FCP)
No eWallet - Crypto (Betsafe, Poker Plex, Totalbet, UK Betting, Will Hill), Paradise, Poker Champs

Networks checked so far: AP, b2b, Betfair, Boss, Bugsy's Club, Cake, Crypto, Dobrosoft, Everest, FT, GamesGrid, iPoker, Ladbrokes, Mansion, Microgaming, OnGame, Pacific, Paradise, Party, Poker.com, Poker Champs, Poker4Ever, Stars, TruePoker, UB, WSEX.

<u>Moneybookers</u>

Currency Available: US $, Can $, others
Funding Options: Bank Transfer (Free), CC (1.9% fee)
Withdrawal Options: Cheque ($4.67 fee), International Bank Transfer ($2.40 fee) - your bank must have its OWN SWIFT code. If your Bank/Credit Union uses a "correspondent bank", this will NOT work.
Depositing on Sites: No fees
Cashouts from Sites: No fees
Transaction Limits: 1,000 Euro for Outgoing Transactions, no limit for Incoming. Can be increased to as high as 17,000 Euro with verification steps.

<u>Click2Pay</u>

Currency Available: Can $ only
Funding Options: Bank Wire (NOT transfer), CC (3% fee) - you don't actually fund the account with your CC prior to making a deposit at a poker site. If you have no funds in your account when you make a deposit at a poker site, they then take it from your CC.
Withdrawal Options: Cheque (Issued in Euros, $2 fee), C2P Card ($10 fee to get card, $5 monthly dormant fee after 6 months, 2% fee on withdrawals min $3 max $15)
Depositing on Sites: No fees, no charge on currency exchange
Cashouts from Sites: No fees, no charge on currency exchange
Transaction Limits: NO limits on C2P-site-C2P transfers. $500/wk limit on loading from CC, will be increased after you spend a certain amount of money over a certain period of time...not specified how much or how long. Next level is $1,000 per week. There are a total of 4 levels after your initial one.

<u>ePassporte</u>

Currency Available: US $ only
Funding Options: CC only ($5 fee per $100 loaded)
Withdrawal Options: Wire Transfer ($50 fee), ATM ($2 fee, requires a $35 purchase of a Visa Card, $35 annual fee)
Depositing on Sites: No fees
Cashouts from Sites: No fees
Transaction Limits: $500 max daily total loads ($1000 for select); 5 max daily loads; 10 max daily transactions; $300 max daily total withdrawals ($600 for select); 5 max daily ATM transactions; 10 max Visa transactions. Select status requirements on web site, $5 fee

<u>Instadebit</u>

Currency Available: Can &amp; US $ together - If you transfer from a site in either currency, it will be kept in the same currency in your Instadebit account until you tranfer back to your bank account; this can result in two balances, one in each currency.
Funding Options: Instacash account is only funded by making transfers from a site back to Instacash; Initial transfer will be made directly from the linked bank account to the site, and subsequent transfers come from the Instacash account, unless there is not enough funds, in which case the funds come directly from the linked account again.
Withdrawal Options: EFT, no fees.
Depositing on Sites: No fees, no charge on currency exchange
Cashouts from Sites: No fees, no charge on currency exchange
Transaction Limits: $500/transaction, $500/day, $500/7-day period, $2,500/30-day period; These limits are reviewed on a regular basis and may be increased automatically based on your transaction activity.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:26 PM
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This is a list of banks' wire transfer fees, courtesy of Savvy76:

All transfers are assumed to originate from Ontario and going to Germany (where Moneybookers' bank is located) and vice versa.

<u>BMO</u>

Outgoing
- Flat fee of $10 + 0.2% of amount transferred (min. $15 - max $125)
Incoming - Flat fee of $14

<u>CIBC</u>

Outgoing
- Flat fee of $35
Incoming - There is a charge of $10 for each incoming wire transfer. Wire transfers from Schedule 2 banks cost between $5 and $10 per transfer.

<u>Citizen's Bank</u>

Outgoing
- Flat fee of $23
Incoming - Free

<u>National Bank</u>

Outgoing
- $15 + 0.38% of amt. transferred
Incoming - ?

<u>RBC</u>

Outgoing
- Flat fee of $35 + communication fee to Germany ($7) = $42
Incoming - Free for wires under $50, $15 for wires over $50

<u>Scotia</u>

Outgoing
- I was quoted $12-13 + 0.15% of transfer amt.(but when I actually did mine at Scotia it was $15 + $7.50 (to Germany) = $22.50)
Incoming - Flat fee $10

<u>TD Canada Trust</u>

Outgoing
- Transfers under $10K - flat fee of $30, Transfers $10K - $250K - flat fee of $50
Incoming - Flat fee $10
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:27 PM
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eWallet FAQ:

Q: Is there any way to load a Moneybookers account from a poker site?

A: The following sites have allowed at least one person to withdraw to MB without having deposited with that method: Eurobet, Gamebookers, Pokerheaven, UltimateBet. Also, PokerSavvy allows you to cash points for their offers to an MB account.

Q: When registering a CC with MB, should I check the option for using it for gaming purposes?

A: If you check the box, it's possible your CC will be declined, if it isn't alowed to be used for gaming sites. However, by not checking it could be worse...they then won't allow the money to be used for gaming. Will that just affect deposits from your CC, or all money in MB? No one seems to know for sure.

Q: What are the best/cheapest options for a Canadian to withdraw money from a bankroll?

A: An EFT or cheque from a poker site is likely best where possible. Otherwise, either the C2P ATM card or a MB cheque seem like the best ways to go, but we are still awaiting trip reports on both of these.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:51 PM
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Has anyone cashed out via cheque from MB?

Will, nothing further on your C2P ATM card?
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: List of eWallets for Canadians (#2 of 2)

I contacted CS at BetSafe and was told they accept MoneyBookers...
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: List of eWallets for Canadians (#2 of 2)

thanks for this. I'd like to point out InstaDebit has been a joy to use and their service is very fast.
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Old 05-05-2007, 01:52 AM
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thanks for this. I'd like to point out InstaDebit has been a joy to use and their service is very fast.

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Can you shed any more light on how things work? Have you cashed out with them yet?
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:11 AM
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I used them to deposit money from UB and for casino sites as well. The bank authentication process was fast, and it's a breeze to deposit anywhere. I haven't withdrawn with them yet, as UB screwed up my withdrawal to InstaDebit, but their service has been really fast to respond to my questions so I don't doubt withdrawing would be done as fast.

And since they have no fees at all, it's even better.
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:37 AM
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I used them to deposit money from UB and for casino sites as well. The bank authentication process was fast, and it's a breeze to deposit anywhere. I haven't withdrawn with them yet, as UB screwed up my withdrawal to InstaDebit, but their service has been really fast to respond to my questions so I don't doubt withdrawing would be done as fast.

And since they have no fees at all, it's even better.

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That's great to hear...they seem pretty good in my limited experience thus far.

What I'm most interested in finding out is how they handle currency exchange. They told me that if I deposited money on to a site from my bank account, and then withdrew it all the way back in the same day, I wouldn't lose any money. Seeing as my first deposit was charged about 3 points higher than the current exchange rate (about 1.135 as opposed to 1.105), I find this hard to believe. Since I mostly use eWallets to bounce money back and forth between sites, this isn't a big deal...but I was hoping this could be a new solution for withdrawing money back to my bank account. I'm hoping they don't nail us for 2 or 3 points on the way out. If you ever withdraw back to your account, please let us know how it goes.

My only other concern with them are the limits. They're pretty small to start with, but they apparently will increase them in time. Have yours been increased at all yet?
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