4-8 Live: 44 flops set against PFR

[Russ M.]

4-8 Live at the Horseshoe in Tunica. 8-handed preflop, I have 44 UTG+1 and my table image is likely to be tight-aggressive (definitely in relation to other players who play around 75% of their hands). The table consists of a couple of moderately tight players and several loose-passive gamboolers, two of which are in this hand.

UTG limps, I limp, folded to SB who raises. BB folds, UTG calls, I call.

Flop: A-9-4r

SB bets, UTG calls, I call.

Turn: 6

SB bets, UTG calls, I raise, SB 3-bets, UTG folds, I call.

River: 3

SB checks, I...?

[Allday Everyday]

I think limping along is good from early if you think more players are likely to come in behind you. In my online games, I generally fold this PF but the UTG's limp would make a limp better.

I would raise the flop rather than slowplay.

As the flop was played, I would actually 4 bet the turn.

I think you have an easy river value bet here.

[DosXX]

I think its 100% value bet here, looks like a small-stakes moron thought his AK was good.

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small pockets are generally playable up front in a live small stakes game ...

i don't understand why more bets aren't going in post flop

[BigBadBabar]

4bet the turn pls
as played bet the river

[jstill]

I dont hate not raising the flop, but I generally do it online not sure it matters a ton, but heres my thinking.

sb will have a non A hand he continuation bet about half the time, so much more than half the time u want to get 2 bets in vs 2 people on the turn it wont happen, as UTG will fold the turn on occasion as well when sb bets again and u called behind on this flop. The other half of the time when sb does have an A, utg will still fold the turn sometimes(now actually more frequently since there are less TP combos for him to have) and if sb is aggro Id like to give him the chance to put more bets in since we have a strong hand. I find most players will 3bet the flop here with AK-AT when u raise (or call to cr the turn), but will very rarely 3bet a turn raise with those hands (almost never esp in a protected pot unless theyre a huge spewtard). They actually should 3bet those hands to try to move UTG out of the pot on the flop on most boards here. Altho on this drawless board its far less of a concern, but people still like to face people w/ 2 bets cold as much as possible to push people out of the pot and try to avoid bad beats. And they figure to be ahead of ur range since u limped preflop so they instantly put u on a weaker ace. If u raised the flop and sb 3bet, I would call and raise any turn probably just calling down from a turn 3bet. As playing AK this way would be quite a spew and people dont always raise A9o out of the blinds vs limpers, so I figure we're behind something like 2:1 at that point or maybe even money.

U should cap the turn here and then call a river lead, as played bet call the river. Honestly though Im really surprised if this guy bet 3bet the turn here with TPGK unless hes one of those types thats always worried about getting sucked out on and really over values driving the middle player out of the hand with a 5 3 or 2 outter (very possible, seems many live players fit this description).

[invictus33]

I raise the flop to punish the draws and hopefully fold a few people out. As played I take that turn to Capsville. Value bet the river.

[jstill]

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I raise the flop to punish the draws and hopefully fold a few people out. As played I take that turn to Capsville. Value bet the river.

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there are literally no draws on this board to punish and no people behind u to fold out

[invictus33]

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I raise the flop to punish the draws and hopefully fold a few people out. As played I take that turn to Capsville. Value bet the river.

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there are literally no draws on this board to punish and no people behind u to fold out

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Flop is A-9-4r, and I take that "r" to mean the flop was all red, so there is either a 3 flush out there already or two diamonds/hearts. Unless that's just a stray keystroke.

[chimpanzepoopdic]

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I raise the flop to punish the draws and hopefully fold a few people out. As played I take that turn to Capsville. Value bet the river.

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there are literally no draws on this board to punish and no people behind u to fold out

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Flop is A-9-4r, and I take that "r" to mean the flop was all red, so there is either a 3 flush out there already or two diamonds/hearts. Unless that's just a stray keystroke.

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I think this is a mis-stroke. The R is below the 4.

Id 4 bet the turn. Then if checked on the river would bet call.

As played Id bet the river. Depending on my read I might even 3 bet if check raised, but usually just call if villian check raises. I play in tunica often and see people push thier Big Aces way to hard all the time.