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Old 03-21-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

85 players remaining in a tournament, 54 paid.

You have around 25,000 chips at this stage, and are about 10th in chips (average ~15k). Blinds are 400/800.

Folds round to the cut off (18,000), who makes it 2400 to go. Button folds.

You have 7-7. The big blind has 15,000.

What's your move?
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Old 03-21-2007, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

You can't answer this question without knowing reads on CO and Big Blind.

Had CO been raising light? Is this his first raise in three hours at the table?

Is Big Blind likely to reraise if you flat call or is he tight and need encouragement to get involved?

Readless, I probably call and evaluate the flop. With a read I might reraise or fold.
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Old 03-21-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

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Had CO been raising light? Is this his first raise in three hours at the table?

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This is only like my second round at this table. I have no reads on CO.
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Old 03-21-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

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Readless, I probably call and evaluate the flop.

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You have just enough implied odds to call for set value, and you can lead any ragged flop.
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Old 03-21-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

Any reads on the villain? What's the buy-in?

Against a standard CO raise, this is an easy re-raise or shove (given the action and stack sizes). The action I'd choose (re-raise or shove) would depend on the villain I'm up against.

I'd have minimal concern about the BB getting involved.
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

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Any reads on the villain? What's the buy-in?

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No reads - new to the table. $100.
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

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Any reads on the villain? What's the buy-in?

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No reads - new to the table. $100.

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I'd just put the guy all-in, and be happy to take the ~4400-chip pot (most of the time).
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

In general, this is a push. Flat calling is also OK. I would need a good reason to fold.
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

Against a standard raise, why is this not a fold? I've always wondered why we do this? Could someone explain?

Also, say we call and miss. Are we simply playing for set value? What odds do we need to play for a set against a preflop raise?
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: 7-7 in SB facing CO raise.

Any reads on the CO???

I've been trying a call, moderate flop bet when OOP like this. Variation on the stop n go, in which you odn't pot commit yourself. Be prepared to do it if the A flops as well, because they don't have it every time.
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