middle set 200bb deep, scary board, solid villian - Page 2

Fight Club · #11 02-13-2007, 03:11 AM

drop suited aces below A10

any timing tell?

G_Dollaz · #12 02-13-2007, 03:12 AM

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As a 21/17 it seems unlikely that he would be raising 55 or 67 in the CO yes? I can see him doing this with AcK/Qc, maybe got stubborn with an overpair. You aren't a big dog against any hand but 55 so I stick it.

Btw first strategy post in more than a year so take it easy on me.

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No, a 17 pfr absolutely open raises these hands from the CO. Maybe you're thinking full ring? in 6 max these are definitely raises from a 21/17.

ArturiusX · #13 02-13-2007, 03:13 AM

Probably an overpair putting you on a draw, looks good.

G_Dollaz · #14 02-13-2007, 03:15 AM

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drop suited aces below A10

any timing tell?

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nothing out of the ordinary, it wasn't an insta-push, nor did he go to his timebank, so him being a solid multi-tabler, and me playing 10 tables @ the time, I didn't notice much as far as timing tells

aejones · #15 02-13-2007, 03:18 AM

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Probably an overpair putting you on a draw, looks good.

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almost never.

G_Dollaz · #16 02-13-2007, 03:20 AM

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Probably an overpair putting you on a draw, looks good.

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almost never.

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I agree w/ aejones here

Black winter day · #17 02-13-2007, 04:28 AM

Could be 33, any Fd with overs, and you are not in such a bad shape against a straight.
I call here too.
The only hand you absolutely hate to see is 55.

ArturiusX · #18 02-13-2007, 04:35 AM

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Probably an overpair putting you on a draw, looks good.

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almost never.

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Explain?

wdead · #19 02-13-2007, 04:43 AM

i dont see why this cant be KK/AA

aejones · #20 02-13-2007, 05:04 AM

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Probably an overpair putting you on a draw, looks good.

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almost never.

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Explain?

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3-betting a big pair here this deep is not the rage for 21/17s. everyone is agraid to "turn their hand into a bluff" etc etc. it will sometimes be AA with the Ac only prob, but thats all i can really think of. most good players will much mediocre overpairs to a raise here with 200bbs behind unless there is activity to warrant a different play, and good players can get rid of two aces here depending o nthe opponent. Aa-TT most likely hand is to call, re eval the turn, and it's not close. i'm not saying that it should be their fav line, i' saying it usually is