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Old 12-01-2007, 11:40 AM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

Villain seems like a mulit-tabling TAG. He is playing 18/16 over 90ish hands, and he should view me as TAG at this point.

How do you weigh his range after his flop c/r?

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CO: $30
BTN: $81.15
SB: $384.25
BB: $249.70
UTG: $234.20
Hero (MP): $224.85

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $7, BB folds

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SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $42</font>, Hero ???
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

KQ AK i say he is on 30% of the time .... equity against = 24%
99 TT is on 30% of the time .... equity against = 2.4%
draw like nut flush or possible straight although i don't knwo if this player is calling with QJ in the blinds .. we will give him 30% .... equity against = 24%

Then the ohter 10 % i say maybe a bluff which may be high against this player so i may just discount it all together

Therefore not including our bluff we are getting almost 50% equity without accounting for any bluff percentage or anything ....

this is the type of range i may put him on
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

the draw percentage though of like 30% against this player may be a little high though depends on his AF
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

AK is unlikely for cold calling pf and I dont think he plays KQ this fast too often. So its a typical case of flipping against a draw (which could easily have a gutter or pair on this board) or dead against a set, two pair or even a straight sometimes - I fold. This isnt a good flop to bluff u for him. If he shows a propensity to play back at c-bets/overvalues top pair then obv either shove or call and get it in on blank turns.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

I say you just drop it. Therere too many hands he couldve cold called out of the blinds that have you raped
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

probably a fold. since he probably reraises AK preflop and doesn't call with AXs
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

if your pushing your draws all-in here and he knows you would, then you should be pushing your AA all in here.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

Wow at all the advice telling him to fold.

1 raise on a drawy flop and we insta muck aces.

A good tag probably 3 bets AK, KK, TT or 99 here.

I think a lot of his range will be draws or air.

If you re-raise your going to lose value from his bluffs with air and get called by hands that have you crushed or good draws.

I think you should call this in position and re-evaluate the turn.
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

With absolutely no redraw and this big c/r I'm inclined to fold it here. Calling to reev is ok too, shoving seems really bad against such a tight player.
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: AA facing c/r from mulit-tabling TAG

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Villain seems like a mulit-tabling TAG. He is playing 18/16 over 90ish hands

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If this is his stats over a larger sample, I really think he has only low/mid pairs here and nothing else. Hard to say with just 90 hands tho.

He never has AK.
I think most TAG's 3-bet TT here.

I wonder if, other than 99, he might do this with lower pairs like


Kilillan says:
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I say you just drop it. Therere too many hands he couldve cold called out of the blinds that have you raped

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Yeah, that is kind what I was edging towards - but admitting to wanting to fold AA on a drawy flop feels like admitting you like s&amp;m.
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