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Old 09-20-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: 5/10- Is this a bluff or a semibluff??

i dont get what you're trying to push him off.

I mean, maybe hes trying the whole "minraise for a free showdown" dealy, but idk, you generally have a few outs when you're called, but if hes minraising here with an A, i really doubt hes folding it.


So you're figuring hes just trying to find out if you have an A really cheap?

Bleh, also, what A is the smallest A you would push on this turn?
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:34 PM
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Are my lines retarded?
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:37 PM
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the more i think about it, the more im starting to like it. But i have absolutely no numbers or reasoning on why. It just seems like it works a lot.

I bet this post will help a LOT of people improve.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: 5/10- Is this a bluff or a semibluff??

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i dont get what you're trying to push him off.

I mean, maybe hes trying the whole "minraise for a free showdown" dealy, but idk, you generally have a few outs when you're called, but if hes minraising here with an A, i really doubt hes folding it.


So you're figuring hes just trying to find out if you have an A really cheap?

Bleh, also, what A is the smallest A you would push on this turn?

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ok, good discussion.

First, I shove AT+ maybe AJ+ against this player for value.

Second, why the hell can't he fold an ace here??

third, he does make free showdown plays occasionally.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:52 PM
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ok, good discussion.

First, I shove AT+ maybe AJ+ against this player for value.

Second, why the hell can't he fold an ace here??

third, he does make free showdown plays occasionally.

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well, it doesnt really make sense that you would shove AT for value and at the same time expect him to fold a small A.

I would assume that since he is minraising here with an A, then he would not fold it bc thats retarded.

The fact that he will make free showdown plays (and on this board, it certainly looks like one) is what makes me like this push.

Also, TRIPS ARE REALLY HARD TO MAKE.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:58 PM
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past- you wouldnt think of folding AT here if someone shoved over ur miniraise???
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: 5/10- Is this a bluff or a semibluff??

ur description was weak regular. i'm just assuming he can't fold trips w/ a decent kicker. if u have a read other than that u should post it and things might change.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:04 PM
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past- you wouldnt think of folding AT here if someone shoved over ur miniraise???

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Unless he's a total moron, why would anybody minraise AT on this board to get a free showdown? AT has tons of value here and most people would not do the stupid free showdown trick.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:45 PM
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past- you wouldnt think of folding AT here if someone shoved over ur miniraise???

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i would absolutely never minraise (or raise any amount) with AT here, unless the guy is a huuuuge party poker-esque fish.

So i wouldnt haven to worry about it.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: 5/10- Is this a bluff or a semibluff??

I think this is great. I can't really see him calling a flop and raising turn with Ax, hes prob bluffing
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