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Old 06-11-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Phil Gordon at New orleans 5k ME

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I kind of like a bet/call on the turn. If villain has TPTK beat, it is hard not to lose a lot anyway. There are so many draws out that I wouldn't give a free card.

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Checking turn also gives us extra value from when he bluffs river with a hand that folds to a turn bet.
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Old 06-11-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Phil Gordon at New orleans 5k ME

bet /check /bet line looks best here becaue:
-it looks a lot like a bluff (will induce a bluff, or get called lightly on river)
-also keeps the size of the pot under control, against a player that maybe superior?
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:59 AM
MychCumstien MychCumstien is offline
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Default Re: Hand vs Phil Gordon at New orleans 5k ME

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I kind of like a bet/call on the turn. If villain has TPTK beat, it is hard not to lose a lot anyway. There are so many draws out that I wouldn't give a free card.

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Checking turn also gives us extra value from when he bluffs river with a hand that folds to a turn bet.

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But there are so many scare cards that could hit on the river that will kill our action. Why not value bet the turn now? Phil's probably got a piece of the board. I think 2 pair is unlikely based on how he's playing it. Same with the str8. He'd be betting to protect against better draws. He would have repopped AK preflop, and unless he has 98, or K9... I highly doubt it. He probably has a hand like AJ suited, or AT suited. Maybe KQ as well.

I value bet the turn. If a scary river card hits, he's donk enough to go for the river C/R. I check behind on the river.

As played, I value bet the river here. I think the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is about the best possible river card you could have.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Phil Gordon at New orleans 5k ME

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seems like an easy check...??

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the river??

nooo, ez value bet.

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Heh, I was pretty drunk when I responded to this, and didn't see we already checked the turn. Yes, I agree to a river value bet, about 1/2 pot.
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Phil Gordon at New orleans 5k ME

check turn, value bet river, when he's mulling over a call w/ his j/9 say, "you made your money from a website, I make mine stealing pots from the chipleader"
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Hand vs Phil Gordon at New orleans 5k ME

the b,

we don't want him to fold, so why would we say that?
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