NL50: QQ and K on turn, i am so weak

[Maunzekater]

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $93.15
SB: $50.90
BB: $55
UTG: $55.35
Hero (CO): $61.65

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">SB raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.50</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $4.75

Flop: ($13.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, SB calls $7

Turn: ($27.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $17</font>


Villain is 17/15/6.5/149, no reads so far. I so hate the turn. Should i bet here and get it be prepared to get it all in?

[Antinome]

You induced a bluff from a crazy aggressive player. This is what you intended, non? Obv. you will now call him down.

Betting and getting value is perhaps a better plan, but this one works fine too.

[finalboarder]

I would bet more on the flop I think. Then on the turn this is a tough situation. I think that the villian is going to be betting with almost anything after you checked. But even so I think right now you're behind about half his range. You're behind AK, KK, AA, tied with the other QQ, and only beating JJ. If I'm right about his range the best move might be to fold as played. I think that on the turn I would lead out though and see what he does. But that might be spewing, because it's betting for information.

[Numfar]

Bet more on the Flop - like $10. Then bet $25 on the Turn and call a push. Its more likely he calls the flop with a FH than with AK so whilst I don't like the K, it probably won't make me fold. Betting more also gets both you and he committed and makes decisions easier.

[Antinome]

villain 4bets AA,KK. he doesn't have those hands. This is a blind battle, I give him credit for 88+,AQ+ at best. a range you beat.

(I made up suits, they don't matter)
Board: 4h 4s 4c Kd

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.871% 52.36% 03.51% 7464 501.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 44.129% 40.61% 03.51% 5790 501.00 { 88+, AQs+, AQo+ }

[Maunzekater]

Something went wrong with the converter, it was UTG who raised.

As the title suggests, i folded. I had a long streak of bad beats and suckouts with QQ+ and my play is influenced by that.

[Dallas Dru]

i think your fold is fine, i dont like the check on the turn.

villian could very well be holding ak in that position.

[Maunzekater]

How much would you bet on the turn? If i bet like $25, i have invested almost 50% of my stack. The dangerous line of being pot commited is in sight.

[Aceium]

I would probably fire the turn because when you check it here, it looks like you failed at making a play on the flop - so he's going to fire with a very wide range here and try to take the hand away from you. If you had made a significant bet on the turn and he still raised you, I would be more inclined to believe the he actually had a king. I would not fold in this spot unless villan had been showing down winners.

[Hail Eris]

Betting this turn with QQ is bad for the same reason that betting it with air is good. C/C seems best.